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Does Toyota Ruin NASCAR For You?
Does Toyota Ruin NASCAR For You?
Monday March 1, 2004
"I don't understand your leaving NASCAR as a fan because they'll be running nonAmerican cars. (I went to my first NASCAR race at Charlotte in 1966, so I'm a longtime fan myself.) Like Formula1 and other series heck, like other sports expanding the pool of competitors will make for better racing." TELLIOTT4055 is in favor of Toyota's entering NASCAR. What do you think? There's a good discussion going on in the forum. Join in!
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May 31, 2006 at 7:27 pm(1) RWR says:
Toyota is foreign ? The big three have plants in mexico & canada !!!LOL
June 3, 2006 at 9:30 am(2) talmage jones says:
it sounds like solid information that darl warthrip, whoever,will run JAP cars running in nascar. I hope they are forced to have the flag of the rizzing sun over every pit crew running Jap cars. I HATE DARL WALTHRIP’S JAP ADDS, AND I’D LOVE TO SMASH HIM RIGHT IN HIS FAKE CHOPS. SIGNED FORMER SGT T. E. JONES U. S. M. C. I HAVEN’NT FORGOTTIN………..
June 5, 2006 at 9:00 pm(3) Joey Ttigg says:
I wish I had a billion dollars to give NASCAR to keep all the race cars American,screw any and all Japcrap cars,drivers and fans. I’m done after this year, nomore races on tv or at the track!!!!!
June 7, 2006 at 12:40 pm(4) Jon Lancaster says:
The comments listed here are indicative of the ignorance that permeates society. Or, for the lay person, comments 1,3, and 4 are made by ignorant people who no next to nothing about the U.S. economy. Toyota does more to keep the U.S. on top lately than GM, Ford, and DaimlerChrysler ever COULD. They keep taking jobs away from this country, and Toyota keeps building plants. I respect your service, SGT JONES, but times have changed, and the only things that separate enemies from allies is time. Look at Iraq, who we funded to defeat Iran 20 years ago. Now we hate them. How ironic.
The Camry is an American car, and since Toyota employs over 386,000 Americans, sound like they should be in NASCAR.
Jon Lancaster
June 8, 2006 at 11:41 am(5) Dirk Williams says:
“Japcrap cars”?
You have a lot to learn, Joey!
“Toyota employs over 386,000 Americans”
Bingo!
June 22, 2006 at 6:41 pm(6) Gary Chan says:
GM manufactures the Chevy Aveo, Epica and Optra in South Korea.
Lol. America’s car giant, like Japan, is generating economy in a foreign nation. So, what’s with all the hating by some of you.
July 10, 2006 at 1:29 pm(7) Jim McGwin says:
Being an avid racing fan, particularly Stock Cars, since I was a kid in the early sixties I get the differences between Stock, Indy an F1.
They have taken the “Stock” out of Stock car racing. Indy is no longer a “super Bowl” level event. Both have gone to Barbie Doll Drivers and spec racers.
Australia still has great “Real” stock car racing!
Indy and F1 were the formats for global competition technology and talent
NASCAR found a huge following in “Loyal” Ford vs Chevy vs other American brand racing.
You would buy the products associated with the brand you were most loyal to.
We’ll that works both ways.
I’m planning on avoiding products that showup on Toyota Hoods (UPS. NAPA are you listening?)
Not just because of the racing but try to sell an American car in Japan, for that last 40 years, You couldn’t and it had nothing to do with quality or fuel economy, but trade restictions.
Try to sell an American car in Japan
July 27, 2006 at 11:01 am(8) Leroy Mathew says:
To all the ethnic slurs Bah! this is a sport like any other sport and if we worry about having foreign participants just try to imagine where we would be if they pulled out their foreign investments out of the US. If they meet NASCAR’s guidlines then let them boogey with the best.
July 31, 2006 at 9:34 pm(9) Craig Cote says:
I work hard for my American money and Toyota has consistantly given me more of it back (far mor than GM or Ford or German owned Chrysler) when it’s come time to sell it. The MonteCarlo is made in Canada, the Fusion in Mexico, and the Camry in the US out of more American parts than the Mustang. If WW2 veterans from Pearl Harbor could hug the Japanese veterans and alls’ wellWELCOME Toyota to the Daytona 500!
August 13, 2006 at 5:02 am(10) Fargin_Icehole says:
Jap CRAP?
I’ve never owned an AMERICAN car that lasted well over 120,000 miles. Contrast that to the Jap CRAP vehicle I owned in the mid 90s that I SOLD when it hit 240,000 without one single trip to the shop for any major work!
Maybe the Jap CRAP’s legendary fuel economy and reliability will translate to NASCAR racing as well but that remains to be seen.
In the end, the more sponsorship dollars, the better for NASCAR in general which used to be the world of BEER and CIGARETTES(hardly a “family” oriented theme).
So the Democrats rid us of the WINSTON Cup. Big frickin’ deal. It only served to EXPAND NASCAR’s influence as the sponsorship became more and more diversified and “family” friendly.
And isn’t that BETTER for the sport than having to put up with the likes of an unfunny DUMBASS like WILL FERRELL drawing attention to it?
Thought so.
August 21, 2006 at 12:28 pm(11) Bryan Steffee says:
I personally do not care if the Toyota’s are made in my basement….it is still a Toyota. And I would love to see the reaction of baseball fans if the champion Japanese team were permitted to compete in the WORLD series….don’t think that would go over too well. And why, because the World Series is AMERICAN. For me it has nothing to do with where the vehicles are made, or how many Americans they employ, or how reliable they are (I gave my Chevy Beretta away with over 500,000 miles by the way). It comes down to this…….Toyota is not an American company.
I will be attending my last race ever this weekend in Bristol. And in my humble opinion, this is just the last nail in the coffin. I could stomach all the other garbage the last 15 years, (ie. Lucky Dog, and the Chase) but it is here I throw in the towel.
Hope someone enjoy’s my seats!
August 30, 2006 at 11:50 am(12) Rich Miller says:
Toyotais the worst mistake nascar could make LETS KEEP IT AMERICAN
September 13, 2006 at 11:54 am(13) Steve Folner says:
Last year for NASCAR as we know it. I just wish folks would understand that money spent on Toyota’s manufactured in the U.S. still goes back to the motherland of Japan. They beat us and never fired a shot. Good bye NASCAR !
September 24, 2006 at 11:11 pm(14) Robert says:
Japan subsidies all their car companies so they can undercut our prices. Pay employees less that American car companies do. Tariffs our cars so we can’t sell them in Japan. Won’t let us build cars in Japan so we compete fairly. Have created over 200,000 job, buy have taken away over 3,000,000.00 Go for it, when you lose your job to unfair trade laws you can eat your Datsun
September 27, 2006 at 12:04 am(15) Mike says:
Disgusting. Foreign brands are foreign brands. Nascar is an American tradition. This is the first I’ve heard of this abomination, and unfortunately, it does ruin Nascar for me. Reliable (SHOW me the 240K mile toyota)? Bah! Built in America (in foreignowned plants)? Bah!
Show me one 1983 toyota on the road and I’ll show you 217 1983 GM cars. Call me a redneck from the little town of Chicago, but I hate foreign crap cars. Bye bye formerglory, formerwinged warriorbattleground, formerAmerican Nascar.
October 8, 2006 at 2:31 pm(16) Gerry Moore says:
Toyota has dominated every racing event ever entered. The manufacturer is already one of the “Big Three”. People do not realize that TOYOTA IS an American manufacturer. I can’t wait to see the tides turn. It will make it more competitive than ever before. TRD to most people’s belief does not stand for “TURD”. It really is “TOYOTA RACING DEVELOPMENT”!!!
It’s about time.
All you people that are not awake to the REAL WORLD but live in the Blue Collar Comedy tour, look where your Ford’s, Chevy’s, Dodge’s and Pontiac’s are built. If you think they are built here in your back yard or even in the U.S.A. wake up and smell the roses or in your case the “moonshine”… This is in no way a shot at the hard working “logical level thinking” American. This is to you who think that it is not good for the sport…
PS: Ask any hard working American Auto Technician who works at a domestic dealership or Mfg. plant what they drive. Chances are 60% plus drive a TOYOTA because they know it will start and they will get to work safely…
October 10, 2006 at 6:29 pm(17) chuck says:
well lets see how they smash up when they get put in the wall.Dont need no jap in an american sport
October 11, 2006 at 6:27 am(18) Will says:
My gosh!!! What is wrong with all of you ’sick, ignorant, and miserable’ bigots? Who do you think you are to say that it is evil, unAmerican, and terrible for Toyota to engage in the NASCAR arena. This is a free country!! In fact, you should really be careful–this subject has pretty much exposed that you are really visiting earth and is not a human being. The sad part is, it’s so many of you out there. You are the very ones that promote, perpetuate, and embrace many of the problems we have in today’s society. This being said, your first option is to stop supporting NASCAR. Next, you should refrain from expressing your ignorant, pathetic views about one of “our” country’s greatest blessings. I take offense to you criticizing what humans do and I take no pride in responding to idiots. But I am compelled to try to offer some help in this situation. No matter how long you’ve been visting here on earth, I think that you’ve pretty much worn out your welcome. You really need to go away–to the planet from which you came. All of us responsible human Americans won’t miss you at all because we don’t need your kind here on earth. Furthermore, you don’t even deserve to be placed in the earth–just leave it!!! But before you depart, I beg that you don’t leave any of your crap behind–nothing at all. Oh–you had better check out the vehicle information plate on your space ship; it may have been made by Totota.
October 15, 2006 at 5:26 am(19) Richard Cayer says:
As an educated adult, I understand both arguments. Yes, I know, it’s been 60+ years. For me, one simple phrase would cause me to welcome Toyota in NASCAR. Germany did it. BMW, Volkswagon, AUDI, and Porsche all gave billions to survivors of their factories, as well as an apology. Small price to pay for 6 million lives, but far better than Japan did. In fact, their attitude is pretty much “we don’t owe the world anything”! Yes, I know about the economics, etc, but it’s simply principle. My reply is not littered with hate. I hate no one. I just want accountability. We, as a nation are always apologizing for something. Other nations are always making sure that we take responsibility for our actions. It’s funny what world forgets in 60 years, which was really not that long ago.
October 15, 2006 at 7:26 pm(20) Pete Peale says:
Well, there is no Big three anymore.
The Dodges running in Nascar are supported by Dodge of Damlier Chrysler which is a German co.
The other BIG TWO are struggling.
Toyota employees over 142,000 people in the US.
I think that GM has way too many models and some that compete with each other across the lines.
I would like to see GM and FORD start copying the popular Japanese and Korean model.
Would love to have a G35 model with a Chevrolet Z28 motor or Fors Mustang GT/Cobra motor.
October 24, 2006 at 11:23 am(21) Bullet says:
Yes, please leave NASCAR you ignorant rednecks. This sport will be better without you and your small minds.
I am an educated redneck and hope Toyota brings a better crowd of people into the NASCAR arena.
October 29, 2006 at 1:02 am(22) Elreyjones says:
The bigots on this site are the ones using the racist term “redneck”. If that racist and ethnically bigoted term can be used then so can every other one. And homeboys there are one for every tribe. What’s fair is fair.
November 13, 2006 at 4:04 pm(23) Robert says:
If you moron JAP Lovers knew that we traded over 5 million jobs for the toyota jobs that pay less that Americans making American cars and trucks. Inports made in American create on the average of 3 jobs per car. Fords Chevy’s and Chrylers create on the average of 7 to 9 in the USA. Do the math and maybe start looking for a job in ASIA
November 17, 2006 at 1:53 pm(24) Gary Ferguson says:
I think that NASCAR should be only American. American cars,…American Racers, American sponsers. This is getting out of hand. This is the last american sport that have americans in it. I don’t think toyota should be in NASCAR. It is going to open up more money for NASCAR, but in the long run it’s going to hurt it. I go to the races. If you start letting other countries race with us. Security is going to have to be beefed up. It’s like this…. goto a RAP concert, then go to a NASCAR Race. What’s the differance? No. It’s not about racisim. Its about the crowd. I won’t go to the races if there is that type of crowd. Thats why you really don’t have many Black drivers. I’m sorry if I offended anyone. But these are the Facts. You have more bad eggs in Foreign Races. Thats how it is. And no, I don’t live in the country. I live in Boston, MA. I am not a hillbilly. I just speak the Truth.
November 23, 2006 at 3:11 pm(25) Charles says:
Are you guys afraid TOYOTA? I think so. You guys better hope they don’t put a 2jzgte engine in the Camry.Anyways Corvette Z06 is my favorite american car.
November 23, 2006 at 3:16 pm(26) Charles says:
Oh yeah I forgot to say this, I wish Toyota never joined either because its making NASCAR look good. And NASCAR is BORING! they’re just wasting gas.
November 25, 2006 at 12:00 am(27) John Allen says:
You know I was well set aginst toyota in nascar when I first heard of them entering the fold of nascar,the blinde patriot in me says no keep toyota out of nascar, but, when one takes the flag out of there eyes they may see that it maywell be a needed move to keep nascar moving forward.The Isolationist is soon extinct.(Though nascar will forever be The Winston cup in my heart, I’ve sortof came to terms with, the, nextel… chase…. thingy…)AH. Back to the point. If the europians sade no to our car builders then ford, gm, chrystlerand amc would not have the world recognation they so covet with the successes corvettes, gt40’s, vipers, saleens had at places such as le mans,spa etc…hell europians are racing these cars themselfs. Now if you can get the flag out of your eyes for a minute and look at the car maker your so enthralled with you may see that there cars are hecho en mexico for much less then it can be made here in the u.s. but they sell it to you for the cost of a small home. they dont care for you, just your doller, hell they just may welcome toyota to nascar becuse the blinde loyal people like you will mortage the kids inheritance and make the c.e.o’s billions buying there cars just to spite toyota. I say let them in, hell lets add another road coarse or two, and one for the chase, if there go’ing to change, like with the chase for the cup, the car of tomorrow (which i think is leaning tworde the gt side)let other car makers in’ other tire makers too. I think 07 may be interesting…
November 28, 2006 at 2:31 pm(28) Trent says:
You guys are a bunch of rednecks that are pissed because your dear Chevy, Ford and Dodge cars will never compare with any of the forgein market. Domestic cars will never compare!
November 28, 2006 at 2:47 pm(29) Nancy says:
Seriously, if you guys get this upset about a foreign car in your sport you have problems. Then again you are the people that LOVE to watch a car go in circles about 500 times, get a life you ignorant hicks!
November 28, 2006 at 2:52 pm(30) Trent says:
Comment 25.. Gary, your attempt to make any sense at all was horrible! One thing does make sense, you’re a fan of NASCAR. You make your people proud.
December 8, 2006 at 3:41 pm(31) Paul says:
Yes Toyota does Ruin nascar For me i will still watch but what does nascar stand for
NATIONAL ASSOCIATION FOR STOCK CAR AUTO RACING
NATIONAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!that mean American the is no place in nascar for POS Toyota’s
December 8, 2006 at 3:45 pm(32) Paul says:
if nascar helps Toyota just like it helped dodge it will not make it
GO Chevy, Dodge, and Ford
December 12, 2006 at 4:36 am(33) Joe says:
It’s about time a competent auto manufacturer like Toyota entered NASCAR. If in case you don’t understand by now, the Camry is an American built car which is more than can be said for the Canadian built Monte Carlo or the Mexican built Fusion. Toyota hasn’t caused the loss of any American jobs either. Even if the company had never existed the socalled Big Three of Detroit still would have outsourced their factories to other nations in order to cut down the overall cost of their vehicles. This is due in large part to the high cost of labor within the United States and international competition not only from Japan but Europe as well. In terms of the bluecollared workforce in America, Toyota is essentially employing United States citizens while the Big Three are laying them off and cutting benefits.
The reason why Toyota has become such a well respected and profitable company over the past few decades is simply because they produce better vehicles for a better price. That equates simply to better engineering and better quality products. If you need an example of just how durable their vehicles are you can take a look at my family’s 1979 Toyota Truck. It was actually the fourth fourwheel drive vehicle ever produced by Toyota (we have the plaque to prove it) and has nearly 350,000 miles on the original engine and transmission. Just to prove how well built these machines are take a look at the Top Gear video in which the producers blatantly attempt to destroy the truck ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQltQ6Qzdb4 and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5ZtntPoaVQ ). I also own a 1994 Toyota Supra TT with over 120,000 miles on it and I still have yet to be beaten by a new GTO, Mustang, or Charger! As a matter of fact, when the Mark IV Supras began being shipped to the United States in 1993 its performance actually exceeded the C4 Corvette’s! Several months after its release to the US market high tariffs were placed on it to a degree that it became far more expensive to buy than Chevy’s poorly engineered flagship vehicle. It is because of the Big Three’s reliance on the government to impose tariffs and sanctions on their competitors that they have become so weakened. They also chose to embrace the massive SUV fad of the 1990s instead of concentrating on engineering advancements. That’s why GM has taken so long to produce a vehicle to compete with Toyota’s Prius ( http://www.evworld.com/view.cfm?section=article&storyid=977 ).
Understand that Toyota is no longer a Japanese company they have become a global company much like many of the US automanufacturers are attempting to achieve. Should Toyota be accepted into NASCAR the true benefit would be the knowledge and engineering TRD (Toyota Racing Development) can bring to the sport and perhaps to the consumer should they ever attempt to market Toyota crate motors in the United States. If they are successful in their attempt to enter NASCAR my friends and I will gladly replace those seats left open by disgruntled rednecks (and I’ll beat them home in my Toyota Supra just to put the icing on the cake).
December 15, 2006 at 10:03 am(34) frank says:
do any of you retards know that the camry will be the only nascar built in the us. since when is it a crime to produce a quality product?
December 16, 2006 at 10:23 pm(35) Robert says:
Tell the over 9 million people that have lost their jobs to unfair trade deals that Toyota’s are American made. Toyota’s create on an average of 3 jobs in American, Fords, Chevy’s and others create on average of 7 to 9. Even with imported parts on them. Wonder why most Americans make less than what they made over 10 years ago. Give your country to Asia one sale at a time. Wise up before you lose your job.
Japanese people trust and support their automakers and others. Americans just want to look good in their Honda Ridgeline (It’s all about me)
My 1998 Ford Nascar truck has over 175,000 miles on it with replacing the front brakes twice only. And 3 sets of tires. So don’t tell me how great their cars are. Made from our scrap.
December 21, 2006 at 4:14 pm(36) i rock says:
toyota should NEVER EVER EVER!!! EVER! BE ALLOWED IN NASCAR! HAVE YOU NOTICED THAT IT IS NOT AMERICAN U NOOBS?
December 21, 2006 at 4:17 pm(37) I Am Cool says:
i AGREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HAVE YOU NOTICED THE NAME OF THE SPORT??? nATION ASSOTION FOR STOCK CAR AUTO RACING
OMG, “NATIONAL” MEANS BY DICTONARY “AMERICAN”!!!!!!!!!!!! OMG TOYOTA SUCK AND I HATE THEM, AND THEY ARE JUST NOT GOOD. tHEY ARE EVIL!!!
December 21, 2006 at 7:14 pm(38) Dugun says:
Toyota in NASCAR… its just aint right! It is like putting a turd in a bowl of M&M’s, it just dont fit and stinks the whole thing up. If Japan has a racing league I would expect them to not allow US made cars in either.
December 23, 2006 at 10:37 pm(39) Robert says:
I have no problem with Toyota being part of our country, but we are not given the same option in JAPAN. Tarrifs so high we can sell out cars there. Wise up Americans and stop selling your jobs and our country down the river. Time to support out companies and our workers. Georgetown Kentucky Toyota plant pays $46,000 for 4 ten hour days, Ford in Louisville pays $70,000 for the same hours. Google the pay rate and you’ll see Why do Toyota’s cost more than our cars? Lets level the playing field? As far as you folks always defending the inports. have you ever lost your job to unfair trade. Japan’s goverment protects the jobs in Japan.
December 24, 2006 at 3:07 am(40) Kurt says:
I started watching nascar in the mid seventies and have totally lost interest in the last few years!!!
To start out, the toyota mouthpiece(DW) and his even more goofy pathetic brother are the kind of dorks that nascar wants these days(brain dead suckups). It kinda shows just what corporate america thinks is a good image for nascar. I find the series boring and very wimpy compared to the days of David Pearson,King Richard,Cale Yarborou and our last true racer Dale Earnhardt. If they were running second and had any chance to pass the leader, even if it meant a crash, they would do it because to them, second place is the first loser. They would be more concerned about winning races rather than loosing points if something bad might happen. Either Bubble wrap the damn cars or get back to racing not this current crap nascar is shoving down peoples throats. As far as toyota, 10 years ago we would have a case to keep them out, but as of today they support the USA more then the big 3 do anymore and that is the saddest part of all!!!
December 24, 2006 at 2:09 pm(41) Kevin says:
Hmmm, lets see here, Toyota only needs 3 people to build a car in America, but Ford needs 7 to 9? That says a lot to me. As a former Chevy lover, last year I purchased two Toyota’s. A Prius and a Camry. Both vehicles have surpassed my expectations, and the Camry is more “American” than the comprable Ford. I also have a 2006 Chevrolet Silverado for my work truck, which has been in the shop three times with warranty repairs this year. I personallay don’t give a damn if Hyundai wants to field a car in NASCAR. Maybe then those 7 to 9 Ford and Chevy (I’m not counting Chrystler, as it is now a German Company) employees it takes to build a car will get off their dead ass and build a car that will compete with my Camry can you say resale Detroit?
Oh and by the way, my uncle was killed by the Japanese in Pearl Harbor the vast majority of those Japanese that planned the attacks and did the fighting are all dead If you have been to Japan lately, you will find that they have embraced all things American, from Harley Davidson’s to McDonalds. They don’t buy Ford’s and Chevy’s because they are crap the same reason that I won’t buy them any more.
December 25, 2006 at 5:46 pm(42) Robert says:
Maybe Kevin should Google that Jap trash and he might just figure out that Japan’s government subsidizes the Jap car companies and you might just be lucky and not have the fuel, Brake and other problems that plague Toyotas. NOT TO MENTION THE 5,000,00 that was recalled for bad engines including your Toyota penis. Toyota has more recalls that all the others combined. Have you thought of moving to Asia and see what tariffs Japan imposes on our sales there. They have a party every year above the Arizona to celebrate what they did to us. And i not talking about the ones that strafe our men in the water. Have you thought of moving to Japan you spend you money there and could care less about American Jobs
Takes less to build them because Toyota will not let many American companies build parts for their trash. American Unions demand that most of the parts for American cars be made in America. That’s where additional jobs come from.
Try reading more and watching the History channel more. American cars and trucks are not just CARS AND TRUCKS BUT OUR AMERICAN HISTORY AND HERITAGE.
December 25, 2006 at 5:50 pm(43) rw conservitive says:
Maybe Kevin should Google that Jap trash and he might just figure out that Japan’s government subsidizes the Jap car companies and you might just be lucky and not have the fuel, Brake and other problems that plague Toyotas. NOT TO MENTION THE 5,000,00 that was recalled for bad engines including your Toyota penis. Toyota has more recalls that all the others combined. Have you thought of moving to Asia and see what tariffs Japan imposes on our sales there. They have a party every year above the Arizona to celebrate what they did to us. And i not talking about the ones that strafe our men in the water. Have you thought of moving to Japan you spend you money there and could care less about American Jobs
Takes less to build them because Toyota will not let many American companies build parts for their trash. American Unions demand that most of the parts for American cars be made in America. That’s where additional jobs come from.
Try reading more and watching the History channel more. American cars and trucks are not just CARS AND TRUCKS BUT OUR AMERICAN HISTORY AND HERITAGE.
December 26, 2006 at 12:39 am(44) Mr. C says:
This dicussion has become more about politics than the sport of racing.(1) Almost 70% of Toyota’s driven in the USA (the country I love) are built here.(2) The man power to vehicles built ratio has to do with the process and procedures they use in building vehicles (which is very stealth). (3) Recalls (2 other name plates had a larger amount) are a part of a manufacturers existance, some bigger than others. Know one expects them, it is how they are handled that shows the difference. Ask any Toyota plant employee if they want the union (they will say NO!!). If the pay ratio difference is what some have claimed (which it is NOT trust me) they would have brought in the union by now. That is what has happened to the belated BIG 3. They have been choked to death for years over that, along with other things and now everyone is seeing the results. They all will rebound and be better companies for it. As the new name plate on top with the others going through some rough roades of course they are the target, as is all that sit at the top of the ladder. Toyota USA has always had a high quality standard. Back when others were said not to have the same quality standards. Well many years later and look at the vehicle market today, all the others have stepped up to the plate and answered the challenge for the most part. But would that have happened if not demanded by the AMERICAN public by requesting there vehicles be built with that in mind? WE THE USA make that level of quality, don’t forget that!!! Toyota pushed the vehicle standards as I believe they will push the standards for NASCAR (which will make it a better sport for all, we demand it). Someone can always make there point on either side of this discission, depending on what they think, know, or have heard. Some will always think what they want no matter the facts. That is what is great about OUR country, you can have your oppinion, just don’t belittle others for there’s. NASCAR “07″
December 26, 2006 at 4:30 pm(45) toyota rules says:
JEALOUS PEOPLE THESE DAYS…
December 26, 2006 at 6:13 pm(46) Patriotism says:
The same left wing liberals that buy Toyota’s also think Dell is the best computer too. They are told that every day in commercials at 6:00 pm on every channel. Just Google them and you’ll see the problems that plague the imports.
Do you really think that all those plants would be here if we didn’t pay them to come and take our jobs. 800 Million in Kentucky alone. When has our Government paid GM or Ford that kind of money to build a plant? The only reason Toyota’s are built here are so they can say they are American made. Because there was some that wouldn’t buy an import.
When we take our country back those that are pro foreign might have to move.
December 28, 2006 at 12:55 pm(47) ralph says:
toyota just like those goddamn mexicans want to take over our once white country,we have to buy american if we dont who will?
December 29, 2006 at 10:25 am(48) DriveaJapcrap says:
Maybe you ignorant rednecks should drive Lexus then see why your American cars are losing the battle!
December 29, 2006 at 6:13 pm(49) All American says:
I worked at a scrap yard in Louisville for some time and i can tell that your Lexus is made from the same scrap that Toyota’s are Our Trash Get Real Driveajapcrap
December 31, 2006 at 10:48 am(50) charles messer says:
to all your dome ass othere and i meing dome ass this is all about big big bisnuss look at dogde there owened by demler and dont forget naft that clinten puy into efect and jeff gorden owner is one of the biggest honda dealers in the usa and all of the big three that biuld cars out side off the us so end out come is dallor and cents
December 31, 2006 at 6:47 pm(51) Gabby says:
Charles, if you’re going to use the word “dumbass”, you might want to type up a proper letter and at least use capitals when needed.
Anyway, yes Toyota has ruined NASCAR for me. I too started watching NASCAR in the late 60’s. I grew up believing in NASCAR and their American cars, and in American born and raised car manufacturers. I’m old school and that will never change, never. It all has to do with what’s in your heart. Toyota’s not in my heart, and just because Dodge is now owned by a German company hasn’t changed the fact that it was born and raised in America. If a German company bought out my contract and I had to move to Germany that doesn’t mean I’m now German. I will always be an American.
NASCAR’s been pushing me farther and farther away anyway. They’ve never asked what the fans would like, they tell the fans what they are supposed to like.
NASCAR won’t miss me because they don’t even know I exist. It’s not without trying though. I’ve sent polite letters with polite questions and positive comments but never got an answer. Hey, if you think anyone at NASCAR cares, have them get in touch with me. I’m cetainly not going to waste my time waiting for a reply.
Enjoy your New NASCAR and have a great new year.
December 31, 2006 at 9:40 pm(52) All American says:
I have been to Indy since it went almost all Asia cars and attendance is down by 40 % since then. Some have no class and the unfair trade laws do not affect their jobs so they simply don’t care. American car companies are trying to survive and what would the harm in supporting them instead of someone in Tokyo. Who really only cares about what they can sell us. To compete the big 2 are going to have to make cars in Mexico and China. If these rotten and selfish it’s all about me Americans would only try and support American companies it would save plenty of jobs.
After 911 only Hyundai and Volkswagen contributed to the 911 funds.
NOT THE FIRST DOLLAR FROM HONDA, TOYOTA, NISSIAN OR SUBURU.
They don’t want to sell their cars here. Their whole economy depends on us.
January 1, 2007 at 5:43 pm(53) jim says:
if you like those jap things so good, go live with em an american
January 6, 2007 at 4:16 pm(54) Marc says:
How many gaijen, I mean Americans, are on the Toyota Board of Directors??
January 6, 2007 at 8:29 pm(55) u funny says:
Marc QOUTE: “How many gaijen, I mean Americans, are on the Toyota Board of Directors?? ”
hahahahahahhahahah this is funny
January 7, 2007 at 6:55 am(56) Aaron says:
Ok, let’s see. The majority of american parts are made overseas, the majority of toyota’s are made HERE. Does it really flipp’n matter? If you dislike NASCAR because of this change you were never a fan to begin with.
January 7, 2007 at 9:04 pm(57) Aaron should read more says:
If Aaron could read he would see that American cars have to tell origin of the parts used to build them on the window sticker and most are less than 10% of Imported parts. Over 70% on most of those so called American Toyota’s built here. Get a clue or at least read some.
January 8, 2007 at 2:43 pm(58) Dan says:
You can talk about where cars are built and where the parts are built, but who cares? Toyota is a foreign company…period. Who’s next, Renault–maybe Honda, Suzuki. I think it should be left alone–Ford, Chevy, Dodge is plenty for me. I’m done with Nascar–this is the icing on the cake. Started with Nascar trying to find the hot young minority or female–you know–the reality shows. Shove them in the car even if they suck. Bill France can suck it. I’ll stick to the local bullring.
January 8, 2007 at 2:50 pm(59) Dan says:
Pull a Toyota Camry up next to a Dodge Charger–hehe see ya later Tojo. It’s all about the dollars–Nascar doesn’t care as long as they are making profit. In 20 years I forsee the starting line up in Daytona consisting of Honda, Toyota, Suzuki but it will still be called the Great American Race. Later nascar.
January 10, 2007 at 12:29 am(60) eric67 says:
Why they don’t make a real american racing with the muscle cars like Ford Mustang, the next Challenger and Camaro. That should a hell of series…
January 10, 2007 at 12:39 am(61) eric67 says:
By the way I deeply respect Toyota Co. they build such of good cars.
But imagine the interest of a real American sports car with 2 doors ( Challenger… )instead of ( sedan) car races.
January 10, 2007 at 12:51 am(62) eric67 says:
I heard through the grapevines that the FUSION, is a Mazda whit a Ford Jacket…
January 11, 2007 at 4:17 am(63) bobby says:
nascar fans are stereotypes and ignorant. F1 is the real deal. Even if there’s toyota in nascar, I still wouldn’t watch it.
January 13, 2007 at 9:35 am(64) NASCAR = WWE on Wheels says:
nASScar is professional wrestling on wheels. For all of you WWE fans out there, that is not a compliment.
January 13, 2007 at 11:51 pm(65) LovedNASCAR says:
Hard to believe there are so many stupid people on this planet. Bigots and racists or just ignorant bullies who are afraid of everything that is not part of their trailer park existence.
Read the Autopact re Canada manufacturing, btw, most components of the Canadian built are made in USA or Mexico, just assembled in Canuckland.
Study up and understand what “public companies” mean. Who really owns them regardless of where the CEO lives.
Search and find out how much money EVERY State that has an auto factory has “invested” in acquiring or retaining the factory/assembly plant. You would be shocked at the amounts of money that is tossed at the auto companies, subsidies they are.
Remember back to the 70’s when the quality of product from the “big 4″ was so poor it was amazing they sold any at all. Oh that’s right, imports were subject to very heavy tarrifs and could not compete with the junk produced here.
Realize NASCAR lost relevance a number of years before Dale died. It is merely mass marketing to the blue collar set to sell all maner of products from womans douche to weight loss products with a “redneck automotive” backdrop.
I will never attend another NASCAR event and not because of the Toyota, because of the puking, swearing, ugly ahole that insists in educating the kids about filthy language and even worse public drunken behavior and me have to pay 100 bucks a pop for the enjoyment.
I have never owned and foreign car and never will, but it has nothing to do with Pearl Harbor, it’s just me. It has been an entertaing few minutes reading the bigotry masquerading as Mom and Apple Pie here. Sad to think they represent many others out there.
January 13, 2007 at 11:51 pm(66) LovedNASCAR says:
Hard to believe there are so many stupid people on this planet. Bigots and racists or just ignorant bullies who are afraid of everything that is not part of their trailer park existence.
Read the Autopact re Canada manufacturing, btw, most components of the Canadian built are made in USA or Mexico, just assembled in Canuckland.
Study up and understand what “public companies” mean. Who really owns them regardless of where the CEO lives.
Search and find out how much money EVERY State that has an auto factory has “invested” in acquiring or retaining the factory/assembly plant. You would be shocked at the amounts of money that is tossed at the auto companies, subsidies they are.
Remember back to the 70’s when the quality of product from the “big 4″ was so poor it was amazing they sold any at all. Oh that’s right, imports were subject to very heavy tarrifs and could not compete with the junk produced here.
Realize NASCAR lost relevance a number of years before Dale died. It is merely mass marketing to the blue collar set to sell all maner of products from womans douche to weight loss products with a “redneck automotive” backdrop.
I will never attend another NASCAR event and not because of the Toyota, because of the puking, swearing, ugly ahole that insists in educating the kids about filthy language and even worse public drunken behavior and me have to pay 100 bucks a pop for the enjoyment.
I have never owned and foreign car and never will, but it has nothing to do with Pearl Harbor, it’s just me. It has been an entertaing few minutes reading the bigotry masquerading as Mom and Apple Pie here. Sad to think they represent many others out there.
January 13, 2007 at 11:53 pm(67) eric67 says:
Sorry Bobby at when your next ride in Ferrari or Mercedese… Nascar is close to ordinary peoples and community instead of F1 (JETSET ). Don’t even think of visiting or talking to a F1 driver. By the way the F1 races are borrrrrrring to see like the rain. Shumacher start first guess who will finish first whit no challenge.
January 14, 2007 at 10:18 am(68) Billy says:
well, this is all very interesting. the cars on the track no longer have any connection to the cars we buy anyway. seriously, folks, get a clue. i love to watch nascar. but it means nothing to me when it’s time to but a car. if you would go buy an impala because it wins at the track, u need help.
By the way, i haven’t heard any one call
for dodge to be taken out of the cup on account of their foreign ownership.
January 14, 2007 at 1:18 pm(69) Tony says:
Toyoda (original name) is a Japanese company. If you buy one of their products the profits don’t stay in the USA. A lot of you deride our companies deversifying by making our products in other countries for profit. But you laud the Japanese for doing the same thing here. To the Japanese WE are a 3rd world county good only for cheap labor & raw materials. Go ahead buy your Camry buy if Jap cars are so good Where are all the old ones? They started in 1937. GM still makes parts for my 43yr old truck.
January 14, 2007 at 7:32 pm(70) st185 says:
toyota are proving they have the potential as well… especially with a camry. ha!
January 14, 2007 at 9:34 pm(71) eric67 says:
Billy has a good point! Dodge is owned by Daimler, and it’s now a better product and getting more credibility. It’s now over to built crap like NEON,Acclaim… Anyway, Ford and Mazda are partnership, GM with Toyota ( Vibe & Matrix ) The new Dodge Caliber is powered by Hyundai engine…
January 16, 2007 at 6:06 pm(72) gearhead says:
What’s with all the talk of unfair trade practices in Japan? Currently, Japan does not levy tariffs on passenger cars, trucks or parts, while its largest export market, the United States, imposes a 25% tariff on light trucks. If you want to complain about protectionism, whine to the EU or China, not Japan.
Those wondering why they don’t see more Japanese cars on the road should note that the US didn’t begin importing them in substantial quantities until the 70’s and 80’s. And even then, their sales numbers were a only fraction of those produced by American companies. It’s a question of quantity, not quality.
Instead of objecting to foreign competition, you should welcome it. I don’t watch NASCAR, but I love watching Vipers and Vettes blow the doors off Ferrari, Porsche, Lambo, Austin Martin, etc in the American LeMans and GT1 racing series.
January 16, 2007 at 6:37 pm(73) gearhead says:
eric67: I agree with you on the F1 comment there is never any passing, rain or shine, it’s all about the pit stops.
Toyota is a public company trading on an American exchange (NYSE). When they sell more Camrys, I see more dividends. I’m sure these righteous folks talking about how Toyota abuses the American workforce were up in arms about Nike sweatshops and the scores of other US companies utilizing child labor in Asia.
The reason why the Japanese build their factories here was to circumvent US trade barriers. And their capital investment in America is a good thing for us. How many US auto manufacturers have invested in plants in Japan? It’s not about politics or national pride it’s about supply and demand. They, and much of the rest of the world, have to deal with less land and higher gas prices. This all leads to smaller, more fuel efficient autos. Unfortunately, a market segment we don’t do particularly well.
January 16, 2007 at 6:46 pm(74) Damion says:
Just shut up nothing you say or do will stop them so just stop crying you red necks
January 17, 2007 at 9:08 am(75) Tony says:
I agree with Gearhead that American Le Mans kicks ass. a road course with real metal cars much closer to stock than NASCAR. And no Asian cars?!, (despite the fake Lexus racing commercials) Its not about protectionisim. it’s about trade, OUR U.S. companies competing against Gov’t subsidised companies from elsewhere taking our dollars home. devaluing our economy. Buy American while you still can.
January 17, 2007 at 8:57 pm(76) All American says:
You folks need to know that in
January 17, 2007 at 9:01 pm(77) All American says:
You folks need to know that the Japanese don’t let foreigners own land in Japan or put any plants there. It’s in their constitution. So much for fair trade laws. Please get wise before it’s too late. And we loose the rest of our good paying jobs.
January 17, 2007 at 11:53 pm(78) Not an ignorant american says:
scared of a little competition like the mexicans stealing your jobs?
grow some balls and shut the hell up
January 17, 2007 at 11:56 pm(79) ur_mom says:
Just because Toyota is becoming #1 next year doesn’t mean you people have to be so ignorant about it.
the TOYOTA CAMRY IS BUILT IN THE UNITED STATES UNLIKE THE FUSION AND MONTE CARLO.
January 18, 2007 at 3:55 pm(80) gearhead says:
There is nothing in the Japanese constitution about foreigners owning land see for yourself: http://www.ndl.go.jp/constitution/e/etc/c01.html. The thing was heavily influenced if not written by US lawyers in 1947. They do have some archaic rules regarding FDI, but that only hurts them IMO.
This same fear mongering was popular in the 1980s. Japanese companies were going to destroy American jobs and take over the world! Well, look at what has happened since then: The US economy has grown in leaps and bounds while maintaining the same low unemployment rate; Japan has suffered economic stagnation for the past 10 years and the road ahead is bumpy.
They make practical cars. We make powerful, fast cars. Who do you think should win on race day?
January 18, 2007 at 10:08 pm(81) Bill says:
Americans screaming about protected markets is a bit funny! Lots of folks here spouting the union line….20 years defending this great nation, so as a Veteran I feel free to speak my mind, the American way used to include fair competition, in the market as well as at the track or on the playing field! If GM and Ford keep up their current trends in quality and fire about half of their designers they will be competitve again, but when we brag about catching the Europeans in quality it is a sad day….
Why no negative sentiment about Dodge? They are owned lockstockbarrel by DaimlerBenz…..also a War II enemy…..
My Toyota Sequoia is built here in the U.S unlike my brothers Suburban (Mexico), and it has more U.S. parts in it…..my 21 year old ‘yota truck has just passed 350,000 miles, 2 clutches and the occasional belt or hose is all its ever needed, original a/c still freeze your tail off, more 4×4 offroad abuse than any vehicle I’ve ever owned….glad to own them both….I work hard for my family, I buy the best quality I can afford whether it be groceries or cars….Toyota doesn’t ruin NASCAR, it may save it……..
January 19, 2007 at 10:10 pm(82) Get Wise says:
When we take our country back from left wingers like you guys, Someone will have to move
January 19, 2007 at 10:38 pm(83) Some One that cares says:
We have already lost this battle. We were told a long time ago that they would defeat
Us without firing a bullet. Japanese people support their car companies. Some under pretenses say they want to spend their money on what is a better product. They just simply don’t care about American companies or their employees. With most of these Patriotic Americans defending open trade and praising how much better these Toyota’s are than our cars it makes you wonder how all those commercials that they see hasn’t brainwashed them.
When our Heritage and History are gone they might be happy. Very sad. Watch the History channel instead of the View and you just might increase your knowledge of history and see the Japanese lobbyist and see how they influence our congress and senate.
And just maybe you might want to purchase a American product
January 20, 2007 at 4:57 pm(84) KEN PLACHECKI says:
PLEASE DO NOT USE THAT ANGLE ‘BUT TOYOTA EMPLOYS 300,000 AMERICANS’ I ASK YOU, WHERE DO ALL THOSE PROFITS GO? RIGHT, BACK TO TOKYO!!! TOYOTA PLAN IS TO ASSEMBLE THEIR PRODUCT HERE TO WARM UP THE AMERICAN PUBLIC TO BUYING TOYOTAS. WOULDN’T IT BE CHEAPER FOR THEM TO MAKE THEIR CARS IN JAPAN? ABSOLUTELY!!! WHY IN THE WORLD DO THEY WANT TO PAY THOSE HIGH AMERICAN WAGES? THEY CAN KEEP THEIR “DRIFTING” LOL. NASCAR IS AN AMERICAN SPORT LOVED BY AMERICANS WHO DO NOT WANT TO SEE A TOYOTA, HONDA OR ANY OTHER FOREIGN MAKE IN “OUR” VICTORY LANES! MY SLOGAN IS THIS, “KEEP JAPCAR OUT OF NASCAR.”
January 20, 2007 at 7:04 pm(85) so far left i'm right says:
Economic globalization at its best. American manufacturers have made deals with these japanese companys in the past. Rebadging cars and selling them as a new model. In Japan, Chevy SUVs are sold by toyota dealerships. European manufacturers like VW, BMW and Benz sell cars there and in Asia. And guess what? Americans do as well! GM’s got international branches like Holden in Austrailia and Vauxhall in Europe. Its a diverse world and its getting smaller by the year thanks to capitalist tendencies Americans have fine tuned since our inception as a country. Toyota is here to stay. Gotta come to terms with that, or you can just keep on enforcing “southern nascar” stereotypes as conservative xenophobes who resist change and progress.
The term “American” is loose these days, and I’m proud our country is a melting pot of all sorts of ethnicities, very unique that it really is a country built on the backs of immigrants!
btw, last time I checked, our American national past time: baseball is sprinkled with people from central america and occasionally…gasp…japan!
January 20, 2007 at 9:00 pm(86) Some One that cares says:
Immigrants in the past were here to melt and become Americans. Immigrants now don’t even try and speak our language and are a burden on our health care and education systems. Wonder why those languages are on out TV’s and other items. I guarantee that so far left i’m right is driving an import and voted for the last loser congress. It is Toyota’s plan to be the top car manufacture in the world and Japan ISOLATES others from investing in their country.
On another note the baseball teams have players from other countries and that’s fine but we don’t let any foreign teams play in out leagues. Lets compare apples with apples.
Nothing is sacred anymore? What part of all the profits go to JAPAN did you not understand? I guarantee you live north of the mason Dixon line too so far left i’m right
January 21, 2007 at 11:31 am(87) miked says:
look at half the cars, their toyotas, you are just afraid of compition.toyota is a GOOD CAR COMPANY. By the way, on History channel it said that in the veitnam war we used TOYOTAS
January 21, 2007 at 1:10 pm(88) Another Republican says:
I can tell miked was never in the service, at that time we used 1/4 ton jeeps made by Ford. AND ANOTHER THING YOU SHOULD USE SPELL CHECK?
January 22, 2007 at 3:00 am(89) not an ignorant american says:
people like you are the reasons we have wars.. trying to differ yourself from the rest of the world… same goes for all the terrorists..
you would think after so many damn centuarys people would accept for what they are.. people.. not countries, borders, race, skincolor, religion. etc.
now this is over a CAR RACE…. hate over cars.. how stupid is that?
January 22, 2007 at 4:11 am(90) so far left I'm right says:
someone that cares
I live in california, car land USA. Qualifies as north of the mason dixie line right? I do drive an import to commute in, but I own a dodge truck to haul my tools to work. I’m also the son of immigrants, and have embraced the american way of life even though I’m only 24 years old…I go to college and pay my way through with a little help from the gov’t and I’m thankful for the opportunity. I guess immigrants these days aren’t entitled to the
same lifestyle we (also mine I guess?) Americans hold dear. I may drive an import but I’m entitled to my own opinion regardless of location relative to an imaginary line. If i were from the south and still disagreed would it matter more or less?
dont like how toyota is ruining nascar? stop watching. simple as that. Let your outrage be heard in the form of lost revenue. They’re in it for money too folks. its a business. money first, and unfortunently, fans second…theres always going to be local events with local people at the speedway right?
January 22, 2007 at 9:27 am(91) CJ says:
Hate to spoil it for the “American Brand” complainers out there, but Toyota is not the only foreign manufacturer in NASCAR.
Dodge is a DaimlerChrysler brand, a Germanowned company…who we fought in two wars that killed more American soldiers than all other wars combined. The Charger is made entirely in Canada, who we also fought (as the French and British) in a few wars.
The Monte Carlo partially manufactured and is entirely assembled in Canada as well.
The Fusion is manufactured in Mexico, who we also fought in a war.
The Camry is entirely assembled in the U.S. Toyota of America is a publicly traded company on the NYSE, so all of that money doesn’t go back to Japan.
Having said all of that, I would rather buy a car from a company that employs 300,000 American workers and makes a few Japanese businessmen rich, than buy a car that employs 200,000 Mexican workers and makes a few American businessmen rich.
January 22, 2007 at 12:00 pm(92) Larry says:
Change is inevitable growth is optional, I think Toyota presents a new challenge to all and it will make teams work harder at making sure they stay on top of the pile. This compitition is what will make the folks that are doing the R.D. for new and inovative products work harder to make them better, same for Toyota it is a healthy positure for everyone. No one is obligated to watch or attend its a free country bogity bogity lets go racing life is to short as it is. As SMOKE would say catch me if you can bring em on.
January 22, 2007 at 1:13 pm(93) Charlie says:
You have lost some 50 longtime fans in Michigan by using Toyotas…an American sport DOES NOT use NON AMERICAN cars. sorry we won’t be attending or watching anymore. cb/others
January 22, 2007 at 9:55 pm(94) Cody Allen says:
I have been reading this stuff since may and i got to say some of you guys out there really Know your FACTS but you still need to get off your moms tit and just realise we(Americans) are running out of things to beable to call American. I say we give em a huge fight this year and just really let them no how much we really dont wont them here, for God sakes dont let them take this from us to
January 24, 2007 at 4:37 pm(95) BDK says:
Nascar fans need to understand that times have changed. If you look at professional sports, there are players from all over the world particating. American athletes are also participating in foreign teams in baseball, basketball, hockey, etc. Most of the cars made by Chevrolet, Ford, Chrysler/Dodge are made/outsourced in Canada, Mexico and Asia. The Pontiac GTO is made in Australia. Toyota participating in Nascar is part of our global world.
Just accept the change and move one.
January 24, 2007 at 4:42 pm(96) BDK says:
I seriously doubt (as well as Nascar) that fans will tune out of watching. There’s always the curiousity factor that will entice fans to return and watch.
The negative publicity is free publicity for Nascar. This will draw in new as will as existing fans.
Most of you haters probably do drive an import car but decide to jump on the antitoyota bandwagon with ignorant comments. This is a very nice example of how educated some of you folks are.
January 25, 2007 at 1:18 am(97) eric67 says:
BDK is right… Toyota is now a part of nascar like Ford is integrated in some series in Europe. ( Have you heard Brit. or German complain about that? )At the present time and probably for the rest of our life, it’s gonna be hard to purchase a car 100% parts made in USA and so what! We must accept the new reality. Times has changed. And could we stop being so arrogant and full of condescension. The world does not belong to us. Let’s think about it guys.
Goodbye…
January 25, 2007 at 1:42 am(98) eric67 says:
BDK is so right, in comments 97 & 98.Stop being so frustrated and narrow minded! If you keep on believe that american cars are 100% American made and assembled in US, you’d better ride a horse. In fact I got a Chrysler with German parts and I like my car. I would probably not buy a Chrysler before Daimler acquire Chrysler. Ford and Mazda Pick up are build side by side and and Mazda trucks are powered by Ford V6 and so what.
January 25, 2007 at 1:16 pm(99) BDK says:
In 2008, Chrysler has plans to sell cars made in China and rebadge them as Chrysler automobiles. The Sebring and the Mitsubishi Eclipse has shared the same engine. The Ford Escape and the Mazda Tribute are pretty much the same car. The Chevrolet Aveo is a rebadged car from South Korea. The Chevrolet Tracker is a rebadged Suzuki Grand Vitara. I like John Mellencamps “this is our country” song that Chevrolet exploited but it does not apply to all of their cars.
January 25, 2007 at 1:31 pm(100) BDK says:
The reason why Toyota will soon become the world’s number 1 auto maker is because they build a quality product…period! GM, Ford and Chrysler sat on their asses and did not built cars that the “American” people wanted. The big three American auto makers are now playing catch up with innovative products that are already outdated in many countries. Its funny why some folks here still insists that Nascar should only be for “American” cars…I guarantee that none of the cars driven in Nascar today are actually “Made in America”.
January 25, 2007 at 2:04 pm(101) BDK says:
Hey Nascar fans…the next time you go watch the races either on TV or in person, remember that the television, binculars, video or digital camera you’re viewing with is NOT “Made in America”!
January 25, 2007 at 7:32 pm(102) YOUGUYSJUSTDONTGETIT!!!! says:
FIRST OF ALL, WE NEED TO QUIT THE NAME CALLING. “REDNECKS, IGNORANT HICKS, PLEASE DONT INSULT MY INTELLIGENCE. WE ALSO CAN QUIT REMINDING EACH OTHER ABOUT FOREIGN CARS BEING MADE IN THE U.S. AND AMERICAN CARS MADE IN OTHER COUNTRIES. DOES ANYONE REMEMBER BACK IN THE DAY WHEN THE LIKES OF AJ FOYT BATTLED AL UNSER IN FRONT OF A PACKED INDY 500 CROWD? NOW ITS SOME DUDE IVE NEVER HEARD OF DRIVING A JAPANESE POWERED CAR FOR THE WIN AND THEY WONDER WHY THEY DONT SELL OUT INDY ANY MORE. THERES NOT AS MUCH INTEREST ANYMORE. WHY DOSENT BRIAN FRANCE LET THE TRUE FANS OF THE SPORT HAVE A SAY ON IT? ALL LAST YEAR I HEARD THE TV COMMENTATORS SAYING “IT’LL BE SO GOOD FOR THE SPORT” BUT HAVED FAILED TO EXPLAIN JUST HOW. IT IS ALSO A WELL KNOWN FACT ESPECIALLY WITH VETERAN DRIVERS AND DRIVERS WITH FAMILIES HAVE COMPLAINED OF THE SPORT GETTING TO BIG WITH ITS EXPANDED SEASON. AS NASCAR BECOMES MORE “DIVERSE” DO THEY START CANCELLING RACES IN THE U.S. TO RUN THEM IN ANOTHER COUNTRY?? ARE YOU GUYS UNDERSTANDING ANY OF THIS?!! WHAT DO THE OWNERS AND THE DRIVERS REALLY THINK? AND WHY DO THEY, WHEN THEY ARE BEING INTERVIEWED, GIVE THESE B.S. REHEARSED ANSWERS THAT NASCAR WANTS THEM TO SAY? I, AM ONE OF MANY, WHO JUST CANT BELIEVE THEM. HAND PUPPETS OF FRANCE PERHAPS. WHERES OUR TONY STEWARTS OF RACING?! ITS HUMAN NATURE THAT PEOPLE WANT TO BE ASSOCIATED WITH WINNERS. AMERICAN CARS HAVE BEEN WINNING IN NASCAR SINCE IT STARTED BECAUSE THATS THE WAY WE WANTED IT, BACK THEN AS WELL AS NOW. COME ON, ARE YOU GETTING IT YET. WE WANT TO SEE “OUR” CARS IN VICTORY CIRCLE TO MOTIVAT US TO GO TO A FORD OR CHEVY DEALER AND BUY A NEW CAR—AND FEEL GOOD ABOUT IT. MAYBE FORD CAN AVOID HAVING TO REPORT AN ANNUAL LOSS OF 12 BILLION FREAKIN’ DOLLARS! WHAT WOULD THE LATE GREAT DALE EARNHARDT THINK, AND BE HONEST WITH YOURSELF. A PREVIOUS COMMENT STATED THAT MORE AND MORE FORIEGN PRO BASEBALL PLAYERS ARE COMMING TO MLB, THAT IS A FACT. BUT LETS SAY YOU TUNE INTO THE FINAL GAME OF THE LITTLE LEAGUE WORLD SERIES, DONT ALL OF US SECRETLY HOPE THE KIDS FROM PENNSYLVANIA BEAT THE JAPANESE KIDS? MAN, IM SORRY, BUT THATS HOW I(OR WE?) FEEL. NASCAR WAS AND SHOULD ALWAYS BE RED, WHITE AND OLDSCHOOL BLUE. LETS REMEMBER WHERE THIS SPORT STARTED AND WHO PAID THEIR DUES. IT DOSENT ALWAYS HAVE TO BE ABOUT THE MONEY, CANT IT BE ABOUT THE PRIDE. LONG LIVE DETROIT STEEL.
January 25, 2007 at 10:01 pm(103) It;s too late says:
When we take our country back you left wing liberals some will have to move. And if all your nonsense is true and they really make a better car than us. Then lets all those foreign baseball teams and basketball and football teams in too.
Like the markets are open for us there. BDK is just plain ignorant!
January 25, 2007 at 10:10 pm(104) Ken Adams says:
I for one will cheer on the Toyota Team. For years I have been a loyal Ford fan. They started the downward spiral when they got rid of the Thunderbird for the Taurus and further deminished the team by racing the @$#&$%. Sorry Office Depot but I’m following the Red Bull now.
January 26, 2007 at 9:19 am(105) BDK says:
In response to 105…wakeup and smell your imported coffee!
January 26, 2007 at 11:37 am(106) It;s too late says:
I’m 54 a veteran and don’t drink coffee and have only rode in one rice burner im my life and it rode like a log wagon(Subaru)Bet you own one!!
Your lame and pro pro burner BDK :~)
January 26, 2007 at 11:44 am(107) It;s too late says:
Bet you money BDK owns a rice burner and is trying to justify it. I am 54 a vet and have only rode in one, a Subaru and it rode like a log wagon. And don’t drink coffee?
LET’S HAVE MORE LAME EXCUSSES FOR NOT SUPPORTING OUR COUNTRY AND IT’S WORKERS
January 28, 2007 at 11:03 am(108) saiman says:
lol….kudos for toyota…love the stupid things people have to comment about. I dont mind all the neg comments but please quit watching wrestling and do a little research first please. I think toyota will do good and yes it just might clear the stands of inbreds lol
January 29, 2007 at 1:03 am(109) beten says:
American Nascar is boring its time to bring new flavor to the track. why all u red necks don’t want nobody else in the program? Simple because racistism is still in america. Grow up and be apart of the world Japanese people built car for the whole world that’s why the work very hard for quality. not like
american.. i feel shame…..
January 29, 2007 at 9:38 am(110) BDK says:
In reponse to 109…
For your information, I’ve owned two Chevrolets (Cavalier and Camaro) before owning two imports (Infiniti and Suzuki). All of these cars were bought used.
When it comes to used vehicles, I’d rather buy an import than a new or used domestic.
Have you read the latest Consumer Guide on used cars? Most of the reliable used cars are imports. Most of the cars to avoid are domestics….Go Figure!
BTW…I bet 99% of the electrical items in your trailer are made in another country. Especially the computer you’re typing your crap with.
January 29, 2007 at 10:29 am(111) Last of the true Americans says:
I totally know why you say what you do because you so stupid to believe Consumer Guide. The same people watch mainstream news and agree with the crap they feed you every night too.
But it doesn’t change the fact that you support foreign companies and not American. How many jobs do we to give away before folks like you care? Does it have to be yours? I repair that Chinese crap all week we call computers and it won’t affect my job. But I have plenty of friends that have lost their jobs because of unfair trade. If only 10% more of Americans would buy American it would create 3 to 7 million better paying jobs here. You know yourself that most are working for less that what we made in the last ten years.
Your right they do make good cars, but you can pick American cars and t
