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Does Toyota Ruin NASCAR For You?
Does Toyota Ruin NASCAR For You?
Monday March 1, 2004
"I don\'t understand your leaving NASCAR as a fan because they\'ll be running nonAmerican cars. (I went to my first NASCAR race at Charlotte in 1966, so I\'m a longtime fan myself.) Like Formula1 and other series heck, like other sports expanding the pool of competitors will make for better racing." TELLIOTT4055 is in favor of Toyota\'s entering NASCAR. What do you think? There\'s a good discussion going on in the forum. Join in!
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May 31, 2006 at 7:27 pm(1) RWR says:
Toyota is foreign ? The big three have plants in mexico & canada !!!LOL
June 3, 2006 at 9:30 am(2) talmage jones says:
it sounds like solid information that darl warthrip, whoever,will run JAP cars running in nascar. I hope they are forced to have the flag of the rizzing sun over every pit crew running Jap cars. I HATE DARL WALTHRIP’S JAP ADDS, AND I’D LOVE TO SMASH HIM RIGHT IN HIS FAKE CHOPS. SIGNED FORMER SGT T. E. JONES U. S. M. C. I HAVEN’NT FORGOTTIN………..
June 5, 2006 at 9:00 pm(3) Joey Ttigg says:
I wish I had a billion dollars to give NASCAR to keep all the race cars American,screw any and all Japcrap cars,drivers and fans. I’m done after this year, nomore races on tv or at the track!!!!!
June 7, 2006 at 12:40 pm(4) Jon Lancaster says:
The comments listed here are indicative of the ignorance that permeates society. Or, for the lay person, comments 1,3, and 4 are made by ignorant people who no next to nothing about the U.S. economy. Toyota does more to keep the U.S. on top lately than GM, Ford, and DaimlerChrysler ever COULD. They keep taking jobs away from this country, and Toyota keeps building plants. I respect your service, SGT JONES, but times have changed, and the only things that separate enemies from allies is time. Look at Iraq, who we funded to defeat Iran 20 years ago. Now we hate them. How ironic.
The Camry is an American car, and since Toyota employs over 386,000 Americans, sound like they should be in NASCAR.
Jon Lancaster
June 8, 2006 at 11:41 am(5) Dirk Williams says:
“Japcrap cars”?
You have a lot to learn, Joey!
“Toyota employs over 386,000 Americans”
Bingo!
June 22, 2006 at 6:41 pm(6) Gary Chan says:
GM manufactures the Chevy Aveo, Epica and Optra in South Korea.
Lol. America’s car giant, like Japan, is generating economy in a foreign nation. So, what’s with all the hating by some of you.
July 10, 2006 at 1:29 pm(7) Jim McGwin says:
Being an avid racing fan, particularly Stock Cars, since I was a kid in the early sixties I get the differences between Stock, Indy an F1.
They have taken the “Stock” out of Stock car racing. Indy is no longer a “super Bowl” level event. Both have gone to Barbie Doll Drivers and spec racers.
Australia still has great “Real” stock car racing!
Indy and F1 were the formats for global competition technology and talent
NASCAR found a huge following in “Loyal” Ford vs Chevy vs other American brand racing.
You would buy the products associated with the brand you were most loyal to.
We’ll that works both ways.
I’m planning on avoiding products that showup on Toyota Hoods (UPS. NAPA are you listening?)
Not just because of the racing but try to sell an American car in Japan, for that last 40 years, You couldn’t and it had nothing to do with quality or fuel economy, but trade restictions.
Try to sell an American car in Japan
July 27, 2006 at 11:01 am(8) Leroy Mathew says:
To all the ethnic slurs Bah! this is a sport like any other sport and if we worry about having foreign participants just try to imagine where we would be if they pulled out their foreign investments out of the US. If they meet NASCAR’s guidlines then let them boogey with the best.
July 31, 2006 at 9:34 pm(9) Craig Cote says:
I work hard for my American money and Toyota has consistantly given me more of it back (far mor than GM or Ford or German owned Chrysler) when it’s come time to sell it. The MonteCarlo is made in Canada, the Fusion in Mexico, and the Camry in the US out of more American parts than the Mustang. If WW2 veterans from Pearl Harbor could hug the Japanese veterans and alls’ wellWELCOME Toyota to the Daytona 500!
August 13, 2006 at 5:02 am(10) Fargin_Icehole says:
Jap CRAP?
I’ve never owned an AMERICAN car that lasted well over 120,000 miles. Contrast that to the Jap CRAP vehicle I owned in the mid 90s that I SOLD when it hit 240,000 without one single trip to the shop for any major work!
Maybe the Jap CRAP’s legendary fuel economy and reliability will translate to NASCAR racing as well but that remains to be seen.
In the end, the more sponsorship dollars, the better for NASCAR in general which used to be the world of BEER and CIGARETTES(hardly a “family” oriented theme).
So the Democrats rid us of the WINSTON Cup. Big frickin’ deal. It only served to EXPAND NASCAR’s influence as the sponsorship became more and more diversified and “family” friendly.
And isn’t that BETTER for the sport than having to put up with the likes of an unfunny DUMBASS like WILL FERRELL drawing attention to it?
Thought so.
August 21, 2006 at 12:28 pm(11) Bryan Steffee says:
I personally do not care if the Toyota’s are made in my basement….it is still a Toyota. And I would love to see the reaction of baseball fans if the champion Japanese team were permitted to compete in the WORLD series….don’t think that would go over too well. And why, because the World Series is AMERICAN. For me it has nothing to do with where the vehicles are made, or how many Americans they employ, or how reliable they are (I gave my Chevy Beretta away with over 500,000 miles by the way). It comes down to this…….Toyota is not an American company.
I will be attending my last race ever this weekend in Bristol. And in my humble opinion, this is just the last nail in the coffin. I could stomach all the other garbage the last 15 years, (ie. Lucky Dog, and the Chase) but it is here I throw in the towel.
Hope someone enjoy’s my seats!
August 30, 2006 at 11:50 am(12) Rich Miller says:
Toyotais the worst mistake nascar could make LETS KEEP IT AMERICAN
September 13, 2006 at 11:54 am(13) Steve Folner says:
Last year for NASCAR as we know it. I just wish folks would understand that money spent on Toyota’s manufactured in the U.S. still goes back to the motherland of Japan. They beat us and never fired a shot. Good bye NASCAR !
September 24, 2006 at 11:11 pm(14) Robert says:
Japan subsidies all their car companies so they can undercut our prices. Pay employees less that American car companies do. Tariffs our cars so we can’t sell them in Japan. Won’t let us build cars in Japan so we compete fairly. Have created over 200,000 job, buy have taken away over 3,000,000.00 Go for it, when you lose your job to unfair trade laws you can eat your Datsun
September 27, 2006 at 12:04 am(15) Mike says:
Disgusting. Foreign brands are foreign brands. Nascar is an American tradition. This is the first I’ve heard of this abomination, and unfortunately, it does ruin Nascar for me. Reliable (SHOW me the 240K mile toyota)? Bah! Built in America (in foreignowned plants)? Bah!
Show me one 1983 toyota on the road and I’ll show you 217 1983 GM cars. Call me a redneck from the little town of Chicago, but I hate foreign crap cars. Bye bye formerglory, formerwinged warriorbattleground, formerAmerican Nascar.
October 8, 2006 at 2:31 pm(16) Gerry Moore says:
Toyota has dominated every racing event ever entered. The manufacturer is already one of the “Big Three”. People do not realize that TOYOTA IS an American manufacturer. I can’t wait to see the tides turn. It will make it more competitive than ever before. TRD to most people’s belief does not stand for “TURD”. It really is “TOYOTA RACING DEVELOPMENT”!!!
It’s about time.
All you people that are not awake to the REAL WORLD but live in the Blue Collar Comedy tour, look where your Ford’s, Chevy’s, Dodge’s and Pontiac’s are built. If you think they are built here in your back yard or even in the U.S.A. wake up and smell the roses or in your case the “moonshine”… This is in no way a shot at the hard working “logical level thinking” American. This is to you who think that it is not good for the sport…
PS: Ask any hard working American Auto Technician who works at a domestic dealership or Mfg. plant what they drive. Chances are 60% plus drive a TOYOTA because they know it will start and they will get to work safely…
October 10, 2006 at 6:29 pm(17) chuck says:
well lets see how they smash up when they get put in the wall.Dont need no jap in an american sport
October 11, 2006 at 6:27 am(18) Will says:
My gosh!!! What is wrong with all of you ’sick, ignorant, and miserable’ bigots? Who do you think you are to say that it is evil, unAmerican, and terrible for Toyota to engage in the NASCAR arena. This is a free country!! In fact, you should really be careful–this subject has pretty much exposed that you are really visiting earth and is not a human being. The sad part is, it’s so many of you out there. You are the very ones that promote, perpetuate, and embrace many of the problems we have in today’s society. This being said, your first option is to stop supporting NASCAR. Next, you should refrain from expressing your ignorant, pathetic views about one of “our” country’s greatest blessings. I take offense to you criticizing what humans do and I take no pride in responding to idiots. But I am compelled to try to offer some help in this situation. No matter how long you’ve been visting here on earth, I think that you’ve pretty much worn out your welcome. You really need to go away–to the planet from which you came. All of us responsible human Americans won’t miss you at all because we don’t need your kind here on earth. Furthermore, you don’t even deserve to be placed in the earth–just leave it!!! But before you depart, I beg that you don’t leave any of your crap behind–nothing at all. Oh–you had better check out the vehicle information plate on your space ship; it may have been made by Totota.
October 15, 2006 at 5:26 am(19) Richard Cayer says:
As an educated adult, I understand both arguments. Yes, I know, it’s been 60+ years. For me, one simple phrase would cause me to welcome Toyota in NASCAR. Germany did it. BMW, Volkswagon, AUDI, and Porsche all gave billions to survivors of their factories, as well as an apology. Small price to pay for 6 million lives, but far better than Japan did. In fact, their attitude is pretty much “we don’t owe the world anything”! Yes, I know about the economics, etc, but it’s simply principle. My reply is not littered with hate. I hate no one. I just want accountability. We, as a nation are always apologizing for something. Other nations are always making sure that we take responsibility for our actions. It’s funny what world forgets in 60 years, which was really not that long ago.
October 15, 2006 at 7:26 pm(20) Pete Peale says:
Well, there is no Big three anymore.
The Dodges running in Nascar are supported by Dodge of Damlier Chrysler which is a German co.
The other BIG TWO are struggling.
Toyota employees over 142,000 people in the US.
I think that GM has way too many models and some that compete with each other across the lines.
I would like to see GM and FORD start copying the popular Japanese and Korean model.
Would love to have a G35 model with a Chevrolet Z28 motor or Fors Mustang GT/Cobra motor.
October 24, 2006 at 11:23 am(21) Bullet says:
Yes, please leave NASCAR you ignorant rednecks. This sport will be better without you and your small minds.
I am an educated redneck and hope Toyota brings a better crowd of people into the NASCAR arena.
October 29, 2006 at 1:02 am(22) Elreyjones says:
The bigots on this site are the ones using the racist term “redneck”. If that racist and ethnically bigoted term can be used then so can every other one. And homeboys there are one for every tribe. What’s fair is fair.
November 13, 2006 at 4:04 pm(23) Robert says:
If you moron JAP Lovers knew that we traded over 5 million jobs for the toyota jobs that pay less that Americans making American cars and trucks. Inports made in American create on the average of 3 jobs per car. Fords Chevy’s and Chrylers create on the average of 7 to 9 in the USA. Do the math and maybe start looking for a job in ASIA
November 17, 2006 at 1:53 pm(24) Gary Ferguson says:
I think that NASCAR should be only American. American cars,…American Racers, American sponsers. This is getting out of hand. This is the last american sport that have americans in it. I don’t think toyota should be in NASCAR. It is going to open up more money for NASCAR, but in the long run it’s going to hurt it. I go to the races. If you start letting other countries race with us. Security is going to have to be beefed up. It’s like this…. goto a RAP concert, then go to a NASCAR Race. What’s the differance? No. It’s not about racisim. Its about the crowd. I won’t go to the races if there is that type of crowd. Thats why you really don’t have many Black drivers. I’m sorry if I offended anyone. But these are the Facts. You have more bad eggs in Foreign Races. Thats how it is. And no, I don’t live in the country. I live in Boston, MA. I am not a hillbilly. I just speak the Truth.
November 23, 2006 at 3:11 pm(25) Charles says:
Are you guys afraid TOYOTA? I think so. You guys better hope they don’t put a 2jzgte engine in the Camry.Anyways Corvette Z06 is my favorite american car.
November 23, 2006 at 3:16 pm(26) Charles says:
Oh yeah I forgot to say this, I wish Toyota never joined either because its making NASCAR look good. And NASCAR is BORING! they’re just wasting gas.
November 25, 2006 at 12:00 am(27) John Allen says:
You know I was well set aginst toyota in nascar when I first heard of them entering the fold of nascar,the blinde patriot in me says no keep toyota out of nascar, but, when one takes the flag out of there eyes they may see that it maywell be a needed move to keep nascar moving forward.The Isolationist is soon extinct.(Though nascar will forever be The Winston cup in my heart, I’ve sortof came to terms with, the, nextel… chase…. thingy…)AH. Back to the point. If the europians sade no to our car builders then ford, gm, chrystlerand amc would not have the world recognation they so covet with the successes corvettes, gt40’s, vipers, saleens had at places such as le mans,spa etc…hell europians are racing these cars themselfs. Now if you can get the flag out of your eyes for a minute and look at the car maker your so enthralled with you may see that there cars are hecho en mexico for much less then it can be made here in the u.s. but they sell it to you for the cost of a small home. they dont care for you, just your doller, hell they just may welcome toyota to nascar becuse the blinde loyal people like you will mortage the kids inheritance and make the c.e.o’s billions buying there cars just to spite toyota. I say let them in, hell lets add another road coarse or two, and one for the chase, if there go’ing to change, like with the chase for the cup, the car of tomorrow (which i think is leaning tworde the gt side)let other car makers in’ other tire makers too. I think 07 may be interesting…
November 28, 2006 at 2:31 pm(28) Trent says:
You guys are a bunch of rednecks that are pissed because your dear Chevy, Ford and Dodge cars will never compare with any of the forgein market. Domestic cars will never compare!
November 28, 2006 at 2:47 pm(29) Nancy says:
Seriously, if you guys get this upset about a foreign car in your sport you have problems. Then again you are the people that LOVE to watch a car go in circles about 500 times, get a life you ignorant hicks!
November 28, 2006 at 2:52 pm(30) Trent says:
Comment 25.. Gary, your attempt to make any sense at all was horrible! One thing does make sense, you’re a fan of NASCAR. You make your people proud.
December 8, 2006 at 3:41 pm(31) Paul says:
Yes Toyota does Ruin nascar For me i will still watch but what does nascar stand for
NATIONAL ASSOCIATION FOR STOCK CAR AUTO RACING
NATIONAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!that mean American the is no place in nascar for POS Toyota’s
December 8, 2006 at 3:45 pm(32) Paul says:
if nascar helps Toyota just like it helped dodge it will not make it
GO Chevy, Dodge, and Ford
December 12, 2006 at 4:36 am(33) Joe says:
It’s about time a competent auto manufacturer like Toyota entered NASCAR. If in case you don’t understand by now, the Camry is an American built car which is more than can be said for the Canadian built Monte Carlo or the Mexican built Fusion. Toyota hasn’t caused the loss of any American jobs either. Even if the company had never existed the socalled Big Three of Detroit still would have outsourced their factories to other nations in order to cut down the overall cost of their vehicles. This is due in large part to the high cost of labor within the United States and international competition not only from Japan but Europe as well. In terms of the bluecollared workforce in America, Toyota is essentially employing United States citizens while the Big Three are laying them off and cutting benefits.
The reason why Toyota has become such a well respected and profitable company over the past few decades is simply because they produce better vehicles for a better price. That equates simply to better engineering and better quality products. If you need an example of just how durable their vehicles are you can take a look at my family’s 1979 Toyota Truck. It was actually the fourth fourwheel drive vehicle ever produced by Toyota (we have the plaque to prove it) and has nearly 350,000 miles on the original engine and transmission. Just to prove how well built these machines are take a look at the Top Gear video in which the producers blatantly attempt to destroy the truck ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQltQ6Qzdb4 and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5ZtntPoaVQ ). I also own a 1994 Toyota Supra TT with over 120,000 miles on it and I still have yet to be beaten by a new GTO, Mustang, or Charger! As a matter of fact, when the Mark IV Supras began being shipped to the United States in 1993 its performance actually exceeded the C4 Corvette’s! Several months after its release to the US market high tariffs were placed on it to a degree that it became far more expensive to buy than Chevy’s poorly engineered flagship vehicle. It is because of the Big Three’s reliance on the government to impose tariffs and sanctions on their competitors that they have become so weakened. They also chose to embrace the massive SUV fad of the 1990s instead of concentrating on engineering advancements. That’s why GM has taken so long to produce a vehicle to compete with Toyota’s Prius ( http://www.evworld.com/view.cfm?section=article&storyid=977 ).
Understand that Toyota is no longer a Japanese company they have become a global company much like many of the US automanufacturers are attempting to achieve. Should Toyota be accepted into NASCAR the true benefit would be the knowledge and engineering TRD (Toyota Racing Development) can bring to the sport and perhaps to the consumer should they ever attempt to market Toyota crate motors in the United States. If they are successful in their attempt to enter NASCAR my friends and I will gladly replace those seats left open by disgruntled rednecks (and I’ll beat them home in my Toyota Supra just to put the icing on the cake).
December 15, 2006 at 10:03 am(34) frank says:
do any of you retards know that the camry will be the only nascar built in the us. since when is it a crime to produce a quality product?
December 16, 2006 at 10:23 pm(35) Robert says:
Tell the over 9 million people that have lost their jobs to unfair trade deals that Toyota’s are American made. Toyota’s create on an average of 3 jobs in American, Fords, Chevy’s and others create on average of 7 to 9. Even with imported parts on them. Wonder why most Americans make less than what they made over 10 years ago. Give your country to Asia one sale at a time. Wise up before you lose your job.
Japanese people trust and support their automakers and others. Americans just want to look good in their Honda Ridgeline (It’s all about me)
My 1998 Ford Nascar truck has over 175,000 miles on it with replacing the front brakes twice only. And 3 sets of tires. So don’t tell me how great their cars are. Made from our scrap.
December 21, 2006 at 4:14 pm(36) i rock says:
toyota should NEVER EVER EVER!!! EVER! BE ALLOWED IN NASCAR! HAVE YOU NOTICED THAT IT IS NOT AMERICAN U NOOBS?
December 21, 2006 at 4:17 pm(37) I Am Cool says:
i AGREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HAVE YOU NOTICED THE NAME OF THE SPORT??? nATION ASSOTION FOR STOCK CAR AUTO RACING
OMG, “NATIONAL” MEANS BY DICTONARY “AMERICAN”!!!!!!!!!!!! OMG TOYOTA SUCK AND I HATE THEM, AND THEY ARE JUST NOT GOOD. tHEY ARE EVIL!!!
December 21, 2006 at 7:14 pm(38) Dugun says:
Toyota in NASCAR… its just aint right! It is like putting a turd in a bowl of M&M’s, it just dont fit and stinks the whole thing up. If Japan has a racing league I would expect them to not allow US made cars in either.
December 23, 2006 at 10:37 pm(39) Robert says:
I have no problem with Toyota being part of our country, but we are not given the same option in JAPAN. Tarrifs so high we can sell out cars there. Wise up Americans and stop selling your jobs and our country down the river. Time to support out companies and our workers. Georgetown Kentucky Toyota plant pays $46,000 for 4 ten hour days, Ford in Louisville pays $70,000 for the same hours. Google the pay rate and you’ll see Why do Toyota’s cost more than our cars? Lets level the playing field? As far as you folks always defending the inports. have you ever lost your job to unfair trade. Japan’s goverment protects the jobs in Japan.
December 24, 2006 at 3:07 am(40) Kurt says:
I started watching nascar in the mid seventies and have totally lost interest in the last few years!!!
To start out, the toyota mouthpiece(DW) and his even more goofy pathetic brother are the kind of dorks that nascar wants these days(brain dead suckups). It kinda shows just what corporate america thinks is a good image for nascar. I find the series boring and very wimpy compared to the days of David Pearson,King Richard,Cale Yarborou and our last true racer Dale Earnhardt. If they were running second and had any chance to pass the leader, even if it meant a crash, they would do it because to them, second place is the first loser. They would be more concerned about winning races rather than loosing points if something bad might happen. Either Bubble wrap the damn cars or get back to racing not this current crap nascar is shoving down peoples throats. As far as toyota, 10 years ago we would have a case to keep them out, but as of today they support the USA more then the big 3 do anymore and that is the saddest part of all!!!
December 24, 2006 at 2:09 pm(41) Kevin says:
Hmmm, lets see here, Toyota only needs 3 people to build a car in America, but Ford needs 7 to 9? That says a lot to me. As a former Chevy lover, last year I purchased two Toyota’s. A Prius and a Camry. Both vehicles have surpassed my expectations, and the Camry is more “American” than the comprable Ford. I also have a 2006 Chevrolet Silverado for my work truck, which has been in the shop three times with warranty repairs this year. I personallay don’t give a damn if Hyundai wants to field a car in NASCAR. Maybe then those 7 to 9 Ford and Chevy (I’m not counting Chrystler, as it is now a German Company) employees it takes to build a car will get off their dead ass and build a car that will compete with my Camry can you say resale Detroit?
Oh and by the way, my uncle was killed by the Japanese in Pearl Harbor the vast majority of those Japanese that planned the attacks and did the fighting are all dead If you have been to Japan lately, you will find that they have embraced all things American, from Harley Davidson’s to McDonalds. They don’t buy Ford’s and Chevy’s because they are crap the same reason that I won’t buy them any more.
December 25, 2006 at 5:46 pm(42) Robert says:
Maybe Kevin should Google that Jap trash and he might just figure out that Japan’s government subsidizes the Jap car companies and you might just be lucky and not have the fuel, Brake and other problems that plague Toyotas. NOT TO MENTION THE 5,000,00 that was recalled for bad engines including your Toyota penis. Toyota has more recalls that all the others combined. Have you thought of moving to Asia and see what tariffs Japan imposes on our sales there. They have a party every year above the Arizona to celebrate what they did to us. And i not talking about the ones that strafe our men in the water. Have you thought of moving to Japan you spend you money there and could care less about American Jobs
Takes less to build them because Toyota will not let many American companies build parts for their trash. American Unions demand that most of the parts for American cars be made in America. That’s where additional jobs come from.
Try reading more and watching the History channel more. American cars and trucks are not just CARS AND TRUCKS BUT OUR AMERICAN HISTORY AND HERITAGE.
December 25, 2006 at 5:50 pm(43) rw conservitive says:
Maybe Kevin should Google that Jap trash and he might just figure out that Japan’s government subsidizes the Jap car companies and you might just be lucky and not have the fuel, Brake and other problems that plague Toyotas. NOT TO MENTION THE 5,000,00 that was recalled for bad engines including your Toyota penis. Toyota has more recalls that all the others combined. Have you thought of moving to Asia and see what tariffs Japan imposes on our sales there. They have a party every year above the Arizona to celebrate what they did to us. And i not talking about the ones that strafe our men in the water. Have you thought of moving to Japan you spend you money there and could care less about American Jobs
Takes less to build them because Toyota will not let many American companies build parts for their trash. American Unions demand that most of the parts for American cars be made in America. That’s where additional jobs come from.
Try reading more and watching the History channel more. American cars and trucks are not just CARS AND TRUCKS BUT OUR AMERICAN HISTORY AND HERITAGE.
December 26, 2006 at 12:39 am(44) Mr. C says:
This dicussion has become more about politics than the sport of racing.(1) Almost 70% of Toyota’s driven in the USA (the country I love) are built here.(2) The man power to vehicles built ratio has to do with the process and procedures they use in building vehicles (which is very stealth). (3) Recalls (2 other name plates had a larger amount) are a part of a manufacturers existance, some bigger than others. Know one expects them, it is how they are handled that shows the difference. Ask any Toyota plant employee if they want the union (they will say NO!!). If the pay ratio difference is what some have claimed (which it is NOT trust me) they would have brought in the union by now. That is what has happened to the belated BIG 3. They have been choked to death for years over that, along with other things and now everyone is seeing the results. They all will rebound and be better companies for it. As the new name plate on top with the others going through some rough roades of course they are the target, as is all that sit at the top of the ladder. Toyota USA has always had a high quality standard. Back when others were said not to have the same quality standards. Well many years later and look at the vehicle market today, all the others have stepped up to the plate and answered the challenge for the most part. But would that have happened if not demanded by the AMERICAN public by requesting there vehicles be built with that in mind? WE THE USA make that level of quality, don’t forget that!!! Toyota pushed the vehicle standards as I believe they will push the standards for NASCAR (which will make it a better sport for all, we demand it). Someone can always make there point on either side of this discission, depending on what they think, know, or have heard. Some will always think what they want no matter the facts. That is what is great about OUR country, you can have your oppinion, just don’t belittle others for there’s. NASCAR “07″
December 26, 2006 at 4:30 pm(45) toyota rules says:
JEALOUS PEOPLE THESE DAYS…
December 26, 2006 at 6:13 pm(46) Patriotism says:
The same left wing liberals that buy Toyota’s also think Dell is the best computer too. They are told that every day in commercials at 6:00 pm on every channel. Just Google them and you’ll see the problems that plague the imports.
Do you really think that all those plants would be here if we didn’t pay them to come and take our jobs. 800 Million in Kentucky alone. When has our Government paid GM or Ford that kind of money to build a plant? The only reason Toyota’s are built here are so they can say they are American made. Because there was some that wouldn’t buy an import.
When we take our country back those that are pro foreign might have to move.
December 28, 2006 at 12:55 pm(47) ralph says:
toyota just like those goddamn mexicans want to take over our once white country,we have to buy american if we dont who will?
December 29, 2006 at 10:25 am(48) DriveaJapcrap says:
Maybe you ignorant rednecks should drive Lexus then see why your American cars are losing the battle!
December 29, 2006 at 6:13 pm(49) All American says:
I worked at a scrap yard in Louisville for some time and i can tell that your Lexus is made from the same scrap that Toyota’s are Our Trash Get Real Driveajapcrap
December 31, 2006 at 10:48 am(50) charles messer says:
to all your dome ass othere and i meing dome ass this is all about big big bisnuss look at dogde there owened by demler and dont forget naft that clinten puy into efect and jeff gorden owner is one of the biggest honda dealers in the usa and all of the big three that biuld cars out side off the us so end out come is dallor and cents
December 31, 2006 at 6:47 pm(51) Gabby says:
Charles, if you’re going to use the word “dumbass”, you might want to type up a proper letter and at least use capitals when needed.
Anyway, yes Toyota has ruined NASCAR for me. I too started watching NASCAR in the late 60’s. I grew up believing in NASCAR and their American cars, and in American born and raised car manufacturers. I’m old school and that will never change, never. It all has to do with what’s in your heart. Toyota’s not in my heart, and just because Dodge is now owned by a German company hasn’t changed the fact that it was born and raised in America. If a German company bought out my contract and I had to move to Germany that doesn’t mean I’m now German. I will always be an American.
NASCAR’s been pushing me farther and farther away anyway. They’ve never asked what the fans would like, they tell the fans what they are supposed to like.
NASCAR won’t miss me because they don’t even know I exist. It’s not without trying though. I’ve sent polite letters with polite questions and positive comments but never got an answer. Hey, if you think anyone at NASCAR cares, have them get in touch with me. I’m cetainly not going to waste my time waiting for a reply.
Enjoy your New NASCAR and have a great new year.
December 31, 2006 at 9:40 pm(52) All American says:
I have been to Indy since it went almost all Asia cars and attendance is down by 40 % since then. Some have no class and the unfair trade laws do not affect their jobs so they simply don’t care. American car companies are trying to survive and what would the harm in supporting them instead of someone in Tokyo. Who really only cares about what they can sell us. To compete the big 2 are going to have to make cars in Mexico and China. If these rotten and selfish it’s all about me Americans would only try and support American companies it would save plenty of jobs.
After 911 only Hyundai and Volkswagen contributed to the 911 funds.
NOT THE FIRST DOLLAR FROM HONDA, TOYOTA, NISSIAN OR SUBURU.
They don’t want to sell their cars here. Their whole economy depends on us.
January 1, 2007 at 5:43 pm(53) jim says:
if you like those jap things so good, go live with em an american
January 6, 2007 at 4:16 pm(54) Marc says:
How many gaijen, I mean Americans, are on the Toyota Board of Directors??
January 6, 2007 at 8:29 pm(55) u funny says:
Marc QOUTE: “How many gaijen, I mean Americans, are on the Toyota Board of Directors?? ”
hahahahahahhahahah this is funny
January 7, 2007 at 6:55 am(56) Aaron says:
Ok, let’s see. The majority of american parts are made overseas, the majority of toyota’s are made HERE. Does it really flipp’n matter? If you dislike NASCAR because of this change you were never a fan to begin with.
January 7, 2007 at 9:04 pm(57) Aaron should read more says:
If Aaron could read he would see that American cars have to tell origin of the parts used to build them on the window sticker and most are less than 10% of Imported parts. Over 70% on most of those so called American Toyota’s built here. Get a clue or at least read some.
January 8, 2007 at 2:43 pm(58) Dan says:
You can talk about where cars are built and where the parts are built, but who cares? Toyota is a foreign company…period. Who’s next, Renault–maybe Honda, Suzuki. I think it should be left alone–Ford, Chevy, Dodge is plenty for me. I’m done with Nascar–this is the icing on the cake. Started with Nascar trying to find the hot young minority or female–you know–the reality shows. Shove them in the car even if they suck. Bill France can suck it. I’ll stick to the local bullring.
January 8, 2007 at 2:50 pm(59) Dan says:
Pull a Toyota Camry up next to a Dodge Charger–hehe see ya later Tojo. It’s all about the dollars–Nascar doesn’t care as long as they are making profit. In 20 years I forsee the starting line up in Daytona consisting of Honda, Toyota, Suzuki but it will still be called the Great American Race. Later nascar.
January 10, 2007 at 12:29 am(60) eric67 says:
Why they don’t make a real american racing with the muscle cars like Ford Mustang, the next Challenger and Camaro. That should a hell of series…
January 10, 2007 at 12:39 am(61) eric67 says:
By the way I deeply respect Toyota Co. they build such of good cars.
But imagine the interest of a real American sports car with 2 doors ( Challenger… )instead of ( sedan) car races.
January 10, 2007 at 12:51 am(62) eric67 says:
I heard through the grapevines that the FUSION, is a Mazda whit a Ford Jacket…
January 11, 2007 at 4:17 am(63) bobby says:
nascar fans are stereotypes and ignorant. F1 is the real deal. Even if there’s toyota in nascar, I still wouldn’t watch it.
January 13, 2007 at 9:35 am(64) NASCAR = WWE on Wheels says:
nASScar is professional wrestling on wheels. For all of you WWE fans out there, that is not a compliment.
January 13, 2007 at 11:51 pm(65) LovedNASCAR says:
Hard to believe there are so many stupid people on this planet. Bigots and racists or just ignorant bullies who are afraid of everything that is not part of their trailer park existence.
Read the Autopact re Canada manufacturing, btw, most components of the Canadian built are made in USA or Mexico, just assembled in Canuckland.
Study up and understand what “public companies” mean. Who really owns them regardless of where the CEO lives.
Search and find out how much money EVERY State that has an auto factory has “invested” in acquiring or retaining the factory/assembly plant. You would be shocked at the amounts of money that is tossed at the auto companies, subsidies they are.
Remember back to the 70’s when the quality of product from the “big 4″ was so poor it was amazing they sold any at all. Oh that’s right, imports were subject to very heavy tarrifs and could not compete with the junk produced here.
Realize NASCAR lost relevance a number of years before Dale died. It is merely mass marketing to the blue collar set to sell all maner of products from womans douche to weight loss products with a “redneck automotive” backdrop.
I will never attend another NASCAR event and not because of the Toyota, because of the puking, swearing, ugly ahole that insists in educating the kids about filthy language and even worse public drunken behavior and me have to pay 100 bucks a pop for the enjoyment.
I have never owned and foreign car and never will, but it has nothing to do with Pearl Harbor, it’s just me. It has been an entertaing few minutes reading the bigotry masquerading as Mom and Apple Pie here. Sad to think they represent many others out there.
January 13, 2007 at 11:51 pm(66) LovedNASCAR says:
Hard to believe there are so many stupid people on this planet. Bigots and racists or just ignorant bullies who are afraid of everything that is not part of their trailer park existence.
Read the Autopact re Canada manufacturing, btw, most components of the Canadian built are made in USA or Mexico, just assembled in Canuckland.
Study up and understand what “public companies” mean. Who really owns them regardless of where the CEO lives.
Search and find out how much money EVERY State that has an auto factory has “invested” in acquiring or retaining the factory/assembly plant. You would be shocked at the amounts of money that is tossed at the auto companies, subsidies they are.
Remember back to the 70’s when the quality of product from the “big 4″ was so poor it was amazing they sold any at all. Oh that’s right, imports were subject to very heavy tarrifs and could not compete with the junk produced here.
Realize NASCAR lost relevance a number of years before Dale died. It is merely mass marketing to the blue collar set to sell all maner of products from womans douche to weight loss products with a “redneck automotive” backdrop.
I will never attend another NASCAR event and not because of the Toyota, because of the puking, swearing, ugly ahole that insists in educating the kids about filthy language and even worse public drunken behavior and me have to pay 100 bucks a pop for the enjoyment.
I have never owned and foreign car and never will, but it has nothing to do with Pearl Harbor, it’s just me. It has been an entertaing few minutes reading the bigotry masquerading as Mom and Apple Pie here. Sad to think they represent many others out there.
January 13, 2007 at 11:53 pm(67) eric67 says:
Sorry Bobby at when your next ride in Ferrari or Mercedese… Nascar is close to ordinary peoples and community instead of F1 (JETSET ). Don’t even think of visiting or talking to a F1 driver. By the way the F1 races are borrrrrrring to see like the rain. Shumacher start first guess who will finish first whit no challenge.
January 14, 2007 at 10:18 am(68) Billy says:
well, this is all very interesting. the cars on the track no longer have any connection to the cars we buy anyway. seriously, folks, get a clue. i love to watch nascar. but it means nothing to me when it’s time to but a car. if you would go buy an impala because it wins at the track, u need help.
By the way, i haven’t heard any one call
for dodge to be taken out of the cup on account of their foreign ownership.
January 14, 2007 at 1:18 pm(69) Tony says:
Toyoda (original name) is a Japanese company. If you buy one of their products the profits don’t stay in the USA. A lot of you deride our companies deversifying by making our products in other countries for profit. But you laud the Japanese for doing the same thing here. To the Japanese WE are a 3rd world county good only for cheap labor & raw materials. Go ahead buy your Camry buy if Jap cars are so good Where are all the old ones? They started in 1937. GM still makes parts for my 43yr old truck.
January 14, 2007 at 7:32 pm(70) st185 says:
toyota are proving they have the potential as well… especially with a camry. ha!
January 14, 2007 at 9:34 pm(71) eric67 says:
Billy has a good point! Dodge is owned by Daimler, and it’s now a better product and getting more credibility. It’s now over to built crap like NEON,Acclaim… Anyway, Ford and Mazda are partnership, GM with Toyota ( Vibe & Matrix ) The new Dodge Caliber is powered by Hyundai engine…
January 16, 2007 at 6:06 pm(72) gearhead says:
What’s with all the talk of unfair trade practices in Japan? Currently, Japan does not levy tariffs on passenger cars, trucks or parts, while its largest export market, the United States, imposes a 25% tariff on light trucks. If you want to complain about protectionism, whine to the EU or China, not Japan.
Those wondering why they don’t see more Japanese cars on the road should note that the US didn’t begin importing them in substantial quantities until the 70’s and 80’s. And even then, their sales numbers were a only fraction of those produced by American companies. It’s a question of quantity, not quality.
Instead of objecting to foreign competition, you should welcome it. I don’t watch NASCAR, but I love watching Vipers and Vettes blow the doors off Ferrari, Porsche, Lambo, Austin Martin, etc in the American LeMans and GT1 racing series.
January 16, 2007 at 6:37 pm(73) gearhead says:
eric67: I agree with you on the F1 comment there is never any passing, rain or shine, it’s all about the pit stops.
Toyota is a public company trading on an American exchange (NYSE). When they sell more Camrys, I see more dividends. I’m sure these righteous folks talking about how Toyota abuses the American workforce were up in arms about Nike sweatshops and the scores of other US companies utilizing child labor in Asia.
The reason why the Japanese build their factories here was to circumvent US trade barriers. And their capital investment in America is a good thing for us. How many US auto manufacturers have invested in plants in Japan? It’s not about politics or national pride it’s about supply and demand. They, and much of the rest of the world, have to deal with less land and higher gas prices. This all leads to smaller, more fuel efficient autos. Unfortunately, a market segment we don’t do particularly well.
January 16, 2007 at 6:46 pm(74) Damion says:
Just shut up nothing you say or do will stop them so just stop crying you red necks
January 17, 2007 at 9:08 am(75) Tony says:
I agree with Gearhead that American Le Mans kicks ass. a road course with real metal cars much closer to stock than NASCAR. And no Asian cars?!, (despite the fake Lexus racing commercials) Its not about protectionisim. it’s about trade, OUR U.S. companies competing against Gov’t subsidised companies from elsewhere taking our dollars home. devaluing our economy. Buy American while you still can.
January 17, 2007 at 8:57 pm(76) All American says:
You folks need to know that in
January 17, 2007 at 9:01 pm(77) All American says:
You folks need to know that the Japanese don’t let foreigners own land in Japan or put any plants there. It’s in their constitution. So much for fair trade laws. Please get wise before it’s too late. And we loose the rest of our good paying jobs.
January 17, 2007 at 11:53 pm(78) Not an ignorant american says:
scared of a little competition like the mexicans stealing your jobs?
grow some balls and shut the hell up
January 17, 2007 at 11:56 pm(79) ur_mom says:
Just because Toyota is becoming #1 next year doesn’t mean you people have to be so ignorant about it.
the TOYOTA CAMRY IS BUILT IN THE UNITED STATES UNLIKE THE FUSION AND MONTE CARLO.
January 18, 2007 at 3:55 pm(80) gearhead says:
There is nothing in the Japanese constitution about foreigners owning land see for yourself: http://www.ndl.go.jp/constitution/e/etc/c01.html. The thing was heavily influenced if not written by US lawyers in 1947. They do have some archaic rules regarding FDI, but that only hurts them IMO.
This same fear mongering was popular in the 1980s. Japanese companies were going to destroy American jobs and take over the world! Well, look at what has happened since then: The US economy has grown in leaps and bounds while maintaining the same low unemployment rate; Japan has suffered economic stagnation for the past 10 years and the road ahead is bumpy.
They make practical cars. We make powerful, fast cars. Who do you think should win on race day?
January 18, 2007 at 10:08 pm(81) Bill says:
Americans screaming about protected markets is a bit funny! Lots of folks here spouting the union line….20 years defending this great nation, so as a Veteran I feel free to speak my mind, the American way used to include fair competition, in the market as well as at the track or on the playing field! If GM and Ford keep up their current trends in quality and fire about half of their designers they will be competitve again, but when we brag about catching the Europeans in quality it is a sad day….
Why no negative sentiment about Dodge? They are owned lockstockbarrel by DaimlerBenz…..also a War II enemy…..
My Toyota Sequoia is built here in the U.S unlike my brothers Suburban (Mexico), and it has more U.S. parts in it…..my 21 year old ‘yota truck has just passed 350,000 miles, 2 clutches and the occasional belt or hose is all its ever needed, original a/c still freeze your tail off, more 4×4 offroad abuse than any vehicle I’ve ever owned….glad to own them both….I work hard for my family, I buy the best quality I can afford whether it be groceries or cars….Toyota doesn’t ruin NASCAR, it may save it……..
January 19, 2007 at 10:10 pm(82) Get Wise says:
When we take our country back from left wingers like you guys, Someone will have to move
January 19, 2007 at 10:38 pm(83) Some One that cares says:
We have already lost this battle. We were told a long time ago that they would defeat
Us without firing a bullet. Japanese people support their car companies. Some under pretenses say they want to spend their money on what is a better product. They just simply don’t care about American companies or their employees. With most of these Patriotic Americans defending open trade and praising how much better these Toyota’s are than our cars it makes you wonder how all those commercials that they see hasn’t brainwashed them.
When our Heritage and History are gone they might be happy. Very sad. Watch the History channel instead of the View and you just might increase your knowledge of history and see the Japanese lobbyist and see how they influence our congress and senate.
And just maybe you might want to purchase a American product
January 20, 2007 at 4:57 pm(84) KEN PLACHECKI says:
PLEASE DO NOT USE THAT ANGLE ‘BUT TOYOTA EMPLOYS 300,000 AMERICANS’ I ASK YOU, WHERE DO ALL THOSE PROFITS GO? RIGHT, BACK TO TOKYO!!! TOYOTA PLAN IS TO ASSEMBLE THEIR PRODUCT HERE TO WARM UP THE AMERICAN PUBLIC TO BUYING TOYOTAS. WOULDN’T IT BE CHEAPER FOR THEM TO MAKE THEIR CARS IN JAPAN? ABSOLUTELY!!! WHY IN THE WORLD DO THEY WANT TO PAY THOSE HIGH AMERICAN WAGES? THEY CAN KEEP THEIR “DRIFTING” LOL. NASCAR IS AN AMERICAN SPORT LOVED BY AMERICANS WHO DO NOT WANT TO SEE A TOYOTA, HONDA OR ANY OTHER FOREIGN MAKE IN “OUR” VICTORY LANES! MY SLOGAN IS THIS, “KEEP JAPCAR OUT OF NASCAR.”
January 20, 2007 at 7:04 pm(85) so far left i\'m right says:
Economic globalization at its best. American manufacturers have made deals with these japanese companys in the past. Rebadging cars and selling them as a new model. In Japan, Chevy SUVs are sold by toyota dealerships. European manufacturers like VW, BMW and Benz sell cars there and in Asia. And guess what? Americans do as well! GM’s got international branches like Holden in Austrailia and Vauxhall in Europe. Its a diverse world and its getting smaller by the year thanks to capitalist tendencies Americans have fine tuned since our inception as a country. Toyota is here to stay. Gotta come to terms with that, or you can just keep on enforcing “southern nascar” stereotypes as conservative xenophobes who resist change and progress.
The term “American” is loose these days, and I’m proud our country is a melting pot of all sorts of ethnicities, very unique that it really is a country built on the backs of immigrants!
btw, last time I checked, our American national past time: baseball is sprinkled with people from central america and occasionally…gasp…japan!
January 20, 2007 at 9:00 pm(86) Some One that cares says:
Immigrants in the past were here to melt and become Americans. Immigrants now don’t even try and speak our language and are a burden on our health care and education systems. Wonder why those languages are on out TV’s and other items. I guarantee that so far left i’m right is driving an import and voted for the last loser congress. It is Toyota’s plan to be the top car manufacture in the world and Japan ISOLATES others from investing in their country.
On another note the baseball teams have players from other countries and that’s fine but we don’t let any foreign teams play in out leagues. Lets compare apples with apples.
Nothing is sacred anymore? What part of all the profits go to JAPAN did you not understand? I guarantee you live north of the mason Dixon line too so far left i’m right
January 21, 2007 at 11:31 am(87) miked says:
look at half the cars, their toyotas, you are just afraid of compition.toyota is a GOOD CAR COMPANY. By the way, on History channel it said that in the veitnam war we used TOYOTAS
January 21, 2007 at 1:10 pm(88) Another Republican says:
I can tell miked was never in the service, at that time we used 1/4 ton jeeps made by Ford. AND ANOTHER THING YOU SHOULD USE SPELL CHECK?
January 22, 2007 at 3:00 am(89) not an ignorant american says:
people like you are the reasons we have wars.. trying to differ yourself from the rest of the world… same goes for all the terrorists..
you would think after so many damn centuarys people would accept for what they are.. people.. not countries, borders, race, skincolor, religion. etc.
now this is over a CAR RACE…. hate over cars.. how stupid is that?
January 22, 2007 at 4:11 am(90) so far left I\'m right says:
someone that cares
I live in california, car land USA. Qualifies as north of the mason dixie line right? I do drive an import to commute in, but I own a dodge truck to haul my tools to work. I’m also the son of immigrants, and have embraced the american way of life even though I’m only 24 years old…I go to college and pay my way through with a little help from the gov’t and I’m thankful for the opportunity. I guess immigrants these days aren’t entitled to the
same lifestyle we (also mine I guess?) Americans hold dear. I may drive an import but I’m entitled to my own opinion regardless of location relative to an imaginary line. If i were from the south and still disagreed would it matter more or less?
dont like how toyota is ruining nascar? stop watching. simple as that. Let your outrage be heard in the form of lost revenue. They’re in it for money too folks. its a business. money first, and unfortunently, fans second…theres always going to be local events with local people at the speedway right?
January 22, 2007 at 9:27 am(91) CJ says:
Hate to spoil it for the “American Brand” complainers out there, but Toyota is not the only foreign manufacturer in NASCAR.
Dodge is a DaimlerChrysler brand, a Germanowned company…who we fought in two wars that killed more American soldiers than all other wars combined. The Charger is made entirely in Canada, who we also fought (as the French and British) in a few wars.
The Monte Carlo partially manufactured and is entirely assembled in Canada as well.
The Fusion is manufactured in Mexico, who we also fought in a war.
The Camry is entirely assembled in the U.S. Toyota of America is a publicly traded company on the NYSE, so all of that money doesn’t go back to Japan.
Having said all of that, I would rather buy a car from a company that employs 300,000 American workers and makes a few Japanese businessmen rich, than buy a car that employs 200,000 Mexican workers and makes a few American businessmen rich.
January 22, 2007 at 12:00 pm(92) Larry says:
Change is inevitable growth is optional, I think Toyota presents a new challenge to all and it will make teams work harder at making sure they stay on top of the pile. This compitition is what will make the folks that are doing the R.D. for new and inovative products work harder to make them better, same for Toyota it is a healthy positure for everyone. No one is obligated to watch or attend its a free country bogity bogity lets go racing life is to short as it is. As SMOKE would say catch me if you can bring em on.
January 22, 2007 at 1:13 pm(93) Charlie says:
You have lost some 50 longtime fans in Michigan by using Toyotas…an American sport DOES NOT use NON AMERICAN cars. sorry we won’t be attending or watching anymore. cb/others
January 22, 2007 at 9:55 pm(94) Cody Allen says:
I have been reading this stuff since may and i got to say some of you guys out there really Know your FACTS but you still need to get off your moms tit and just realise we(Americans) are running out of things to beable to call American. I say we give em a huge fight this year and just really let them no how much we really dont wont them here, for God sakes dont let them take this from us to
January 24, 2007 at 4:37 pm(95) BDK says:
Nascar fans need to understand that times have changed. If you look at professional sports, there are players from all over the world particating. American athletes are also participating in foreign teams in baseball, basketball, hockey, etc. Most of the cars made by Chevrolet, Ford, Chrysler/Dodge are made/outsourced in Canada, Mexico and Asia. The Pontiac GTO is made in Australia. Toyota participating in Nascar is part of our global world.
Just accept the change and move one.
January 24, 2007 at 4:42 pm(96) BDK says:
I seriously doubt (as well as Nascar) that fans will tune out of watching. There’s always the curiousity factor that will entice fans to return and watch.
The negative publicity is free publicity for Nascar. This will draw in new as will as existing fans.
Most of you haters probably do drive an import car but decide to jump on the antitoyota bandwagon with ignorant comments. This is a very nice example of how educated some of you folks are.
January 25, 2007 at 1:18 am(97) eric67 says:
BDK is right… Toyota is now a part of nascar like Ford is integrated in some series in Europe. ( Have you heard Brit. or German complain about that? )At the present time and probably for the rest of our life, it’s gonna be hard to purchase a car 100% parts made in USA and so what! We must accept the new reality. Times has changed. And could we stop being so arrogant and full of condescension. The world does not belong to us. Let’s think about it guys.
Goodbye…
January 25, 2007 at 1:42 am(98) eric67 says:
BDK is so right, in comments 97 & 98.Stop being so frustrated and narrow minded! If you keep on believe that american cars are 100% American made and assembled in US, you’d better ride a horse. In fact I got a Chrysler with German parts and I like my car. I would probably not buy a Chrysler before Daimler acquire Chrysler. Ford and Mazda Pick up are build side by side and and Mazda trucks are powered by Ford V6 and so what.
January 25, 2007 at 1:16 pm(99) BDK says:
In 2008, Chrysler has plans to sell cars made in China and rebadge them as Chrysler automobiles. The Sebring and the Mitsubishi Eclipse has shared the same engine. The Ford Escape and the Mazda Tribute are pretty much the same car. The Chevrolet Aveo is a rebadged car from South Korea. The Chevrolet Tracker is a rebadged Suzuki Grand Vitara. I like John Mellencamps “this is our country” song that Chevrolet exploited but it does not apply to all of their cars.
January 25, 2007 at 1:31 pm(100) BDK says:
The reason why Toyota will soon become the world’s number 1 auto maker is because they build a quality product…period! GM, Ford and Chrysler sat on their asses and did not built cars that the “American” people wanted. The big three American auto makers are now playing catch up with innovative products that are already outdated in many countries. Its funny why some folks here still insists that Nascar should only be for “American” cars…I guarantee that none of the cars driven in Nascar today are actually “Made in America”.
January 25, 2007 at 2:04 pm(101) BDK says:
Hey Nascar fans…the next time you go watch the races either on TV or in person, remember that the television, binculars, video or digital camera you’re viewing with is NOT “Made in America”!
January 25, 2007 at 7:32 pm(102) YOUGUYSJUSTDONTGETIT!!!! says:
FIRST OF ALL, WE NEED TO QUIT THE NAME CALLING. “REDNECKS, IGNORANT HICKS, PLEASE DONT INSULT MY INTELLIGENCE. WE ALSO CAN QUIT REMINDING EACH OTHER ABOUT FOREIGN CARS BEING MADE IN THE U.S. AND AMERICAN CARS MADE IN OTHER COUNTRIES. DOES ANYONE REMEMBER BACK IN THE DAY WHEN THE LIKES OF AJ FOYT BATTLED AL UNSER IN FRONT OF A PACKED INDY 500 CROWD? NOW ITS SOME DUDE IVE NEVER HEARD OF DRIVING A JAPANESE POWERED CAR FOR THE WIN AND THEY WONDER WHY THEY DONT SELL OUT INDY ANY MORE. THERES NOT AS MUCH INTEREST ANYMORE. WHY DOSENT BRIAN FRANCE LET THE TRUE FANS OF THE SPORT HAVE A SAY ON IT? ALL LAST YEAR I HEARD THE TV COMMENTATORS SAYING “IT’LL BE SO GOOD FOR THE SPORT” BUT HAVED FAILED TO EXPLAIN JUST HOW. IT IS ALSO A WELL KNOWN FACT ESPECIALLY WITH VETERAN DRIVERS AND DRIVERS WITH FAMILIES HAVE COMPLAINED OF THE SPORT GETTING TO BIG WITH ITS EXPANDED SEASON. AS NASCAR BECOMES MORE “DIVERSE” DO THEY START CANCELLING RACES IN THE U.S. TO RUN THEM IN ANOTHER COUNTRY?? ARE YOU GUYS UNDERSTANDING ANY OF THIS?!! WHAT DO THE OWNERS AND THE DRIVERS REALLY THINK? AND WHY DO THEY, WHEN THEY ARE BEING INTERVIEWED, GIVE THESE B.S. REHEARSED ANSWERS THAT NASCAR WANTS THEM TO SAY? I, AM ONE OF MANY, WHO JUST CANT BELIEVE THEM. HAND PUPPETS OF FRANCE PERHAPS. WHERES OUR TONY STEWARTS OF RACING?! ITS HUMAN NATURE THAT PEOPLE WANT TO BE ASSOCIATED WITH WINNERS. AMERICAN CARS HAVE BEEN WINNING IN NASCAR SINCE IT STARTED BECAUSE THATS THE WAY WE WANTED IT, BACK THEN AS WELL AS NOW. COME ON, ARE YOU GETTING IT YET. WE WANT TO SEE “OUR” CARS IN VICTORY CIRCLE TO MOTIVAT US TO GO TO A FORD OR CHEVY DEALER AND BUY A NEW CAR—AND FEEL GOOD ABOUT IT. MAYBE FORD CAN AVOID HAVING TO REPORT AN ANNUAL LOSS OF 12 BILLION FREAKIN’ DOLLARS! WHAT WOULD THE LATE GREAT DALE EARNHARDT THINK, AND BE HONEST WITH YOURSELF. A PREVIOUS COMMENT STATED THAT MORE AND MORE FORIEGN PRO BASEBALL PLAYERS ARE COMMING TO MLB, THAT IS A FACT. BUT LETS SAY YOU TUNE INTO THE FINAL GAME OF THE LITTLE LEAGUE WORLD SERIES, DONT ALL OF US SECRETLY HOPE THE KIDS FROM PENNSYLVANIA BEAT THE JAPANESE KIDS? MAN, IM SORRY, BUT THATS HOW I(OR WE?) FEEL. NASCAR WAS AND SHOULD ALWAYS BE RED, WHITE AND OLDSCHOOL BLUE. LETS REMEMBER WHERE THIS SPORT STARTED AND WHO PAID THEIR DUES. IT DOSENT ALWAYS HAVE TO BE ABOUT THE MONEY, CANT IT BE ABOUT THE PRIDE. LONG LIVE DETROIT STEEL.
January 25, 2007 at 10:01 pm(103) It;s too late says:
When we take our country back you left wing liberals some will have to move. And if all your nonsense is true and they really make a better car than us. Then lets all those foreign baseball teams and basketball and football teams in too.
Like the markets are open for us there. BDK is just plain ignorant!
January 25, 2007 at 10:10 pm(104) Ken Adams says:
I for one will cheer on the Toyota Team. For years I have been a loyal Ford fan. They started the downward spiral when they got rid of the Thunderbird for the Taurus and further deminished the team by racing the @$#&$%. Sorry Office Depot but I’m following the Red Bull now.
January 26, 2007 at 9:19 am(105) BDK says:
In response to 105…wakeup and smell your imported coffee!
January 26, 2007 at 11:37 am(106) It;s too late says:
I’m 54 a veteran and don’t drink coffee and have only rode in one rice burner im my life and it rode like a log wagon(Subaru)Bet you own one!!
Your lame and pro pro burner BDK :~)
January 26, 2007 at 11:44 am(107) It;s too late says:
Bet you money BDK owns a rice burner and is trying to justify it. I am 54 a vet and have only rode in one, a Subaru and it rode like a log wagon. And don’t drink coffee?
LET’S HAVE MORE LAME EXCUSSES FOR NOT SUPPORTING OUR COUNTRY AND IT’S WORKERS
January 28, 2007 at 11:03 am(108) saiman says:
lol….kudos for toyota…love the stupid things people have to comment about. I dont mind all the neg comments but please quit watching wrestling and do a little research first please. I think toyota will do good and yes it just might clear the stands of inbreds lol
January 29, 2007 at 1:03 am(109) beten says:
American Nascar is boring its time to bring new flavor to the track. why all u red necks don’t want nobody else in the program? Simple because racistism is still in america. Grow up and be apart of the world Japanese people built car for the whole world that’s why the work very hard for quality. not like
american.. i feel shame…..
January 29, 2007 at 9:38 am(110) BDK says:
In reponse to 109…
For your information, I’ve owned two Chevrolets (Cavalier and Camaro) before owning two imports (Infiniti and Suzuki). All of these cars were bought used.
When it comes to used vehicles, I’d rather buy an import than a new or used domestic.
Have you read the latest Consumer Guide on used cars? Most of the reliable used cars are imports. Most of the cars to avoid are domestics….Go Figure!
BTW…I bet 99% of the electrical items in your trailer are made in another country. Especially the computer you’re typing your crap with.
January 29, 2007 at 10:29 am(111) Last of the true Americans says:
I totally know why you say what you do because you so stupid to believe Consumer Guide. The same people watch mainstream news and agree with the crap they feed you every night too.
But it doesn’t change the fact that you support foreign companies and not American. How many jobs do we to give away before folks like you care? Does it have to be yours? I repair that Chinese crap all week we call computers and it won’t affect my job. But I have plenty of friends that have lost their jobs because of unfair trade. If only 10% more of Americans would buy American it would create 3 to 7 million better paying jobs here. You know yourself that most are working for less that what we made in the last ten years.
Your right they do make good cars, but you can pick American cars and trucks that do well too.
You just chose not to support
January 29, 2007 at 10:35 am(112) BluefishAngeL says:
Pleassssseeee! People we are entering the final phase of this New World Order and YOU, have to remember! Out with the old and in with the new! Think Global Village and give up that die hard sovereignty for a claer path to a world that can coexist without borders!
January 29, 2007 at 10:40 am(113) The Profiler says:
BDK Your profile says he you are left wing Democrat nonVeteran. Anti war. Anti GUN AND PRO COICE
So easy to read
January 29, 2007 at 10:55 am(114) miked says:
in responce to 90, im 12 yrs old. P.S. republicans SUCK!
January 29, 2007 at 1:10 pm(115) BDK says:
In response to 115…I hope profiling is not your day job b/c I’m not a Democrat, not antigun and yes this is America…we all have a choice…
January 29, 2007 at 8:31 pm(116) Check the Label says:
I once worked for Ford. At the dealership, the only parts box or package I could find that read “Made in USA” were the disc rotors which incidentally kept getting recalled due to warpage. Everything else was from Canada, Mexico, UK, Brazil, Japan, Thailand, Malta, France, etc. Yes, MALTA.
I once worked for GM. Small parts made here in America, then hauled to Mexico to be assembled into big components, & hauled back to the plant here in America to be installed in the cars.
Harleys? PostAMF days, when Harley was Harley again….right before the big “buyaHarley” fad broke out. The chain….made in Japan. Forks….made in Japan. Electrical components….made in Japan. Reflectors….made in Finland. Headlamp….made in France.
Of course the bike was assembled here in America. However; let’s not forget to mention that Harley has a factory in BRAZIL now….on the Amazon River no doubt. Wonder how many parts are now from Brazil.
The days of the stereotypical patriotic lunatic frothing at the mouth & pumping his fist in the air yelling, “Buy American” are over. There probably hasn’t been a 100% Americanmade car produced in America since the 1940’s.
Toyotas? Darn good cars compared to all the pieces of work from Detroit I ever owned.
I welcome Toyota to NASCAR.
January 30, 2007 at 10:02 pm(117) Sick of Liberials that love Japan says:
When we take our country back Check the Label might have to move. He doesn;t realize how many don’t like these left wing rice burner lovers
January 31, 2007 at 1:57 pm(118) chad says:
We can’t have a sport of our own with out the japan butting in on our fun and American history.
January 31, 2007 at 2:01 pm(119) chad says:
We can’t have a sport of our own with out the Japanese butting in on our fun and American history.
January 31, 2007 at 2:01 pm(120) chad says:
We can’t have a sport of our own with out the Japanese butting in on our fun and American history!!
January 31, 2007 at 4:34 pm(121) BDK says:
In reponse to Check the Label. You’re 100% correct. There is an interesting article written by Kevin Hench from FOX Sports. All Nascar fans old and new should read. The days of borderline racist attitudes are over…
http://msn.foxsports.com/nascar/story/6410502
January 31, 2007 at 9:45 pm(122) Some of us don\'t like Nascar anyway says:
You can make excuses all day that my American truck is part foreign and your Asian truck which includes the Korean crap too is made here and creates all those 300,000 jobs. The bottom line is that Asian markets and their Goverments protect their companies and their jobs. And don’t allow free trade. Blame it on racism or our cars are junk. The reality is that Americans refuse to support our jobs and companies.
But by caparison and the backward trade laws. We traded millions for a few jobs.
We are breaking our back to buy more crap from China and India. Where are those tree huggers now that China and India are the biggest polluters in the world?
Go ahead put an American flag on your Toyota. Some are so proud of themselves they don’t see what’s wrong with that. It’s all about me and how good I look in my Datsun.
And it is Patriot to buy American even though some of the parts are foreign.
January 31, 2007 at 11:29 pm(123) Those who Love America says:
Check the label should marry BDK and move to Tokyo They should b very happy driving those Subaru’s around Japan
Just Kidding
February 2, 2007 at 2:20 am(124) VINNY says:
LETS NOT FORGET PEARL HARBOR
AMERICAN FOREVER
IMPORT NEVER
February 2, 2007 at 7:00 am(125) IT\'S ALL ABOUT YOU says:
Some talk of racism, I have a friend that goes to Japan on a regular basis and the Japanese people don’t like us. But I guess that’s ok. They don’t want to sell to us they have too. We are about 35% of their economy. Others say that we should forgive what they did to us. That’s why the Japanese have a party over the Arizona every year to celebrate what they did. I have a Japanese friend that draws a disability check for radiation poisoning from us bombing them after Pearl Harbor.
She drives a American car and has American flags all over he yard.
NO MORE EXCUSES YOU CHOSE NOT TO SUPPORT OUR JOBS AND OUR AMERICAN COMPANIES
February 2, 2007 at 8:52 am(126) Ed (Chevy The Hot One) says:
I would just like to share a view from across the pond! NASCAR has sold out and forgotten it’s roots, soon it will be a showcase of mind numbing COT’s driving around with Nissan, Honda, KIA, Toyota and a hunk of other junky brand names written on their hoods. Soon, just like Indy (The Great American Race without an American manufacturer involved), the Daytona 500 will be a spectacle better moved to the shores of Monaco/UAE/Japan.
As an Englishman, I own three American cars I would by choice own no other! I love stock car racing, US Muscle and America out right Looking to the hero’s of yesteryear for inspiration, Herb Thomas, Fireball Roberts, Lee Petty, Ralph E and Dale, the King … these were real race car drivers from a time where convertibles raced on the beach and drivers used their racecars to drive home!
A winged Dodge Charger/ Plymouth Superbird or a Ford Torino justified the integrity of the manufacturers clearly and family’s maintained links with brands through generations.
Rubbing, banging was racing, emotions, passion, desire for victory was everything … today it is all about $$ … I appreciate it that Toyota is made in America by factories employing Americans and that freedom to choose is in the constitution … but surely it should be written that certain things remain unspoilt, unchanged part of the heritage of a great nation … don’t allow your history and tradition to be brushed aside for political correctness (like it has in England)!
I have been dirt tracks in South Dakota, the World 600 as it should be correctly known in Charlotte, Chicagoland, Martinsville, Bristol, Darlington, Sears Point, Las Vegas …. and this April I go to Phoenix for what will be my last race, NASCAR Nextel race … as I don’t want to see COT’s (Subaru Imprezza lookalikes) or Toyota’s, as it just ain’t right!
Sorry I am a purist … Bowties, Fords, Dodge ONLY , infact bring back Olds and Plymouth!! Bring back Rockingham, North Wilksboro and the SOUTHERN 500!!
Looks like hobby stocks,Dirt Racing, ASA, ARCA, will get my support till it is over run.
Several of these current safety changes have been put on the loss of the great Dale Senior at Daytona 2001, the real question is how many of these would he have endorsed and prescribed to, eg He would not wear a full face helmet or ‘Hans Device’?
The issue I don’t feel has anything to do with racism … everyone should in a free market have the right to choose what they own, where it comes from and how much money they want to spend for it … still this does not mean that everything that is pure, traditional and like apple pie should have to be watered down to some sloppy mash of big business and the ‘don’t upset the sponsors correctness’!!
RACE SUNDAY BUY MONDAY!
God Bless America!
PS The only other foreign manufacturer sanctioned to race in NASCAR since ‘49 was English made Jaguar in the 1950’s my feelings remain the same, National Association of Stock Car Auto Racing did not even include English built road cars, American manufacturers only!
February 2, 2007 at 9:54 am(127) Joe says:
You southern folk got alot to learn, Toyota is here to stayget over it!
February 2, 2007 at 1:22 pm(128) dan says:
Never invite a jap for dinner. Rice sucks. Hamburgers Rule!!!!
February 2, 2007 at 3:15 pm(129) Our Southern Values will rule says:
Hey Joe the South Will Rise Again and this time we have the Industry and the money
February 3, 2007 at 7:37 am(130) Mike C says:
This happened in motorcycle racing as well. The sport got better when the Japanese entered. Initially it will be difficult for Toyota to run in the top of the pack and there will be much rejoicing when they don’t. But they will overcome that in short order and the sport will cease to be a chevy, ford, mopar only show. This cannot be bad for the sport.
February 4, 2007 at 1:40 am(131) tommy stein says:
Dear Sgt Talmadge Jones:
You obviously are an illiterate moron who does not know how to spell. With idiots like you in the military, it is no wonder that we lost in Vietnam and are losing in Iraq.
February 4, 2007 at 9:56 am(132) Tom says:
The 386,000 people employs is mainly in sales not building cars.
February 4, 2007 at 5:16 pm(133) Last of the true Americans says:
I can tell you never served in any capacity (Tommy stein) You cut and run Democrats lost Vietnam and are trying their best to loose in Iraq too. BET YOU HAPPY DRIVING YOUR RICE BURNER.
February 4, 2007 at 5:16 pm(134) Last of the true Americans says:
I can tell you never served in any capacity (Tommy stein) You cut and run Democrats lost Vietnam and are trying their best to loose in Iraq too. BET YOUR HAPPY DRIVING YOUR RICE BURNER.
February 5, 2007 at 6:50 pm(135) Bob says:
If you dont want your tickets to the races somebody else does HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
February 5, 2007 at 10:49 pm(136) eric67 says:
This debate getting very boring and to political…
February 5, 2007 at 10:51 pm(137) eric67 says:
I’m bored of that debate… ADIOS…
February 5, 2007 at 11:16 pm(138) Hendrick motors Fan says:
Why do people complain about so much.
You try to get rid of Mexicans but you pay them to cut your grass. You eat their tacos and drink their taquilla.
Or you eat Asian food and talk on a sony. Watch tv on a hitachi what else ? No matter how much of an american you are you own something in your home or trailer made other than american. Stop being stupeducated and fight for what really matters in AMERICA…
I hope the next few years Nascar becomes americas # 1 sport
February 6, 2007 at 4:10 pm(139) Check the Label says:
See, the problem is that the stereotypical “patriot” thumping his chest screaming “Buy American!” and “No Imports!” fails to wake up and see.
I HAVE SEEN where the majority of parts come from for AMERICAN brand cars & Harley. I even videoed the boxes at the Ford dealership long ago to prove to skeptics like those of you crying, “Buy American”. Anyone who works for GM knows when Adelphi was up & running well, that parts were shipped to Mexico to be assembled into components. Anyone who owns a Harley can look closely at some of the parts on it and find, “Made in Japan.” Showa forks on a Harley sure the heck ain’t Americanmade.
You namecallers pay no attention to reality. Even grapes in the produce section mostly come from Chile, as they did DECADES ago for the U.S. Military.
It’s just funny how when everyone starts calling everyone leftistliberal Japanese lovers. For instance, I may be a registered Republican and my father may have fought the Japanese in WW2. I myself may be a disabled veteran who sacrificed for this country. But that’s my business.
I know one thing….the reason America became what America has become is because of you barstool namecallers who can’t comprehend the truth & facts, so you all just make up derogatory names to call people who try to point out the truth. Those of you who refuse to accept the fact that it’s possible for America to have lost a war (or two), or that America has turned to the Third World for car parts, or that “change” may come to auto racing.
I haven’t followed NASCAR since the days of the REAL cars when there was hardly ANY ADVERTISEMENTS posted all over the REAL body. I couldn’t stand the changes. Fiberglass, the tons of adds covering the hood & sides of the car! I liked it better when there was just something simple as “426 CID” tacked on the hood.
So, those of you who don’t want Toyota in NASCAR can either quit watching, accept it, or draft up petitions to be sent to the multimillion dollar sport of which I‘m sure they will gladly “roundfile” your petition & effort.
February 6, 2007 at 5:38 pm(140) Edward says:
I used to be a GM guy. No more.
I purchased my first Toyota this summer and let me tell you, it is a far better automobile than anything I’ve ever owned.
American auto manufacturers are an embarrassment to all Americans. We have the worlds best Colleges and Universities, yet our autos are are not up to par with the offerings from Toyota, Nissan, Audi, BMW, Honda, Subaru, and others.
You should be pissed at Ford, Chevy, and Dodge for making crappy autos, not Toyota. It’s not Toyota’s fault that they make better cars.
February 6, 2007 at 7:55 pm(141) Mississippi says:
PREPARE FOR TOTAL DOMINATION OF NASCAR BY TOYOT’R!!!!!! TOYONATION HAS BEGUN. DAYTONA 500 WILL BE THE FIRST CONQUERED BY TOYOT’R!!!! SOON EVERY MAN, WOMAN, AND CHILD WILL OWN A TOYOT’R!!!! TOYOT’R WILL CRUSH THE BIG THREE, SEE YOU IN A TOYOT’R SOON!!!!!!!!
February 6, 2007 at 8:37 pm(142) Bla Bla Bla says:
KEEP MAKING EXCUSES AND TELLING YOURSELF THAT YOUR A PATRIOT.AND KEEP BUYING ASIAN CRAP UNTIL YOU LOOSE YOUR JOB. I DON’T WATCH ROUND DE ROUND CARS ANYWAY. TOO MANY REDNECK DRUNKS
Tell yourself it’s ok not to buy a Chevy or a Ford. AND IT’S NOT OK FOR ALL THOSE MESICANS TO BE HERE EITHER.
Check the label is just rambling and is not one of us and not the views of most. He will see one day
February 6, 2007 at 8:50 pm(143) Another Republican says:
Rush L told me about people like Check The Label. You have to sink to thier level so they understand the truth. I refuse to do that. Read more and you might just understand what this attitude is doing to our ecomomy.
Forth attemp of Toyota to make a real truck with real torqe and sturdy frames. If they keep it up and keep stealing Ford’s Tecnology they might just build a good truck one day.
February 6, 2007 at 11:20 pm(144) South Carolina says:
TOYOT’R STEALIN’ FORD’S TECHNOLOGY? ARE YOU PLUM CRAZY!?! YOU MEANT FORD STEALIN’ MAZDA’S TECHNOLOGY! I AGREE WITH MISSISSIPPI. IT WILL BE A TOYONATION!!!!! TOYOT’R WILL DOMINATE NASCAR AND THE NEXT BIGFOOT WILL BE A TOYOT’R!!!!!!!! OH WHAT A FEELIN’!!!!
February 7, 2007 at 2:34 am(145) Done with NASCAR says:
Stock car racing has been gone for some time. There is nothing “stock” about these plastic things they call cars. If that were still the case, I doubt Toyota would win many races with a stock V6 camry. I guess a manufacturer no longer has to have a real push rod V8 in their showrooms to compete in stock car racing. I have been done with NASCAR for quite a while now. Toyota puts the final nail in the coffin for me. Maybe in 08 they will start using hybrids in NASCAR.
And for those of you who think that camrys are only made in America, I see thousands of them come off the ships from Japan in Long Beach California every week!
I have owned Fords, Chevys, Toyotas, and Hondas. I have had problems with all of them. But the toyotas have had the most expensive peoblems. Two blown head gaskets and a recent fiasco with an 05 sienna minivan that left my family stranded in the California desert. Toyota does make some dependable cars but so do Ford, Dodge and GM. If the big three made nothing but junk, there wouldn’t be any still on the road.
February 7, 2007 at 3:36 pm(146) Toyota and GM Owner says:
Americans! “Sigh” I love american cars and if i could afford to run one in England i would but at 90pence per litre of fuel its impossible. I have a 1 litre vauxhall (GM) which is 5 years old and breaks down once a week with a different fault every time, it uses 2 litres of oil a month and is very cheap and plastic. I also have a Toyota Supra with the 2JZ engine (One of the best engines ever created i might add!) which has never broken down or lost any oil/water/fluid of any kind, always starts, any weather, always spotless and even heavily modified still gets 25 miles per gallon. Its the envy of most of the people in my city and i would never sell it. I would challenge any american car to catch it or go for as long without fault. Dont get me wrong here but Toyota are providing you people with jobs that your own companies are taking away from you, as always you are on here trying to shoot yourselves in the foot. Stop winging and let Toyota show you what they can do, you may be pleasantly surprised.
February 7, 2007 at 6:36 pm(147) Bla Bla Bla says:
You anti American folks should go to recalls.com Toyota has more recalls than all the manufactures combined.
Every night at 6:00 i see Toyautocar commercials telling you smart Americans how gret thier cars are.aND YOU GUYS ACTUALLY BELIEVE IT
Dale hasn’t got any nerve anymore and won’t win with a wantabe Nascar Toyota
Some of us know the plan of Toyota, tell us how many they employ(mostly in sales and suck the rest of you folks in)
But he is a good man just greed got the best of him
GO Green with Toyota and all your money goes to Japan
Such fools
February 7, 2007 at 8:22 pm(148) mikep says:
A race is a race, no matter what is in the race. Get over it.
I went to my first and last NASCAR race in 1981. I was under the impression that since it got more mainstream, it was a more tolerant crowd. I was wrong.
You people should all save your breath, because when ignorance is part of the equation neither side will even consider the other side of the argument. Hence the jingoism.
Bigots suck.
February 8, 2007 at 7:51 pm(149) Hendrick Motors Fan says:
I love my older Chevys. But I hate so say it. Look out for them Toyos. THEY ARE COMING TO A TRACK NEAR YOU.
Its going to be a great intresting year. All those REAL fans who claim to give up on Nascar you wont make it past the BUD SHOOT OUT. STOP YOUR RACISM ITS JUST A ANOTHER CONTENDER SUPPORT YOUR NASCAR OTHER WISE WATCH FIGURE SKATING SEE YOU OUT ON THE ICE……..NOT
PS. IF YOU TOOK THE TIME TO READ OR WRITE HERE ITS ONLY BECAUSE YOU LOVE YOUR NASCAR BOTTOM LINE LETS HELP NASCAR BECOME AMERICAS # 1 SPORT
February 9, 2007 at 5:09 pm(150) Robbeaux says:
Its all about the benjamins..sooner or later it woulda happened..you are living in corporate AMERICA..Home of the SELLOUT
February 10, 2007 at 1:32 am(151) PorterHouse says:
When i read these comments i picture hairy flanelwearing, confederate flagtoting grime balls. You know what, i wish the south had won and seceded, then all you ignorant people would have your own country. Ultraconservative morons. Half of you don’t even know how to speak english correctly. I’m surprised you idiots even have computers down there. God, just leave. Its not even about NASCAR. We’re in the age of globalization. Eventually it will be one world, and countries will be states. We are all on the same planet, we’re all in this together, who cares if the company is owned by our neighbors across the Pacific? And speaking of you using the term “National” being American only, explain to me why there are Canadian teams in the NBA, NHL, and NLL. And what about the Toronto Blue Jays in the AL? Idiots, do us all a favor and leave, take your bibles and guns with you.
February 10, 2007 at 1:49 am(152) steve says:
first of all we have a unfair trade agreement with the oriental countries.US manufactuers cant sell there cars overseas. two, people are brain washed that toyotas are so great. they right now have one of the largest recall campaigns going.third, a camery as a race car? there is no such thing as a hiperformance camery or toyota for that matter. nascar has gotten boring over the years. its all about marketing and stupid commercials.they have sold out. they should go back to homoglating cars, as they did back in the60’s. lets see, ford as mustangs , shelbys ford gt…chrysler has srts, charger,magnum… chevy has corvette etc. toyota has nothing!! zero! no street performance! they should be band from nascar and the US govt should step in and say,you can sell your cars here as long as we can selll our american built cars over there.period.
February 10, 2007 at 7:48 am(153) Tom Smith says:
FYI
February 10, 2007 at 9:31 am(154) Mike Maish says:
I think toyota will make nascar a little more exciting. But its not that that i look at i look at how theyre all of a sudden putting in a foreign car in a sport thats been all american for years from the start these foreign companies are messing up our economy as is we dont need them racing in one of the biggest sports in our country. Theyre trying to take over everything of ours in the way of large businesses and run them in their countries and take away our jobs. Im totaly against this act.
February 10, 2007 at 1:12 pm(155) KEN PLACHECKI says:
TO THOSE OF US OPPOSED TO TOYOTA, LETS BAND TOGETHER AND HIT THEM WHERE IT HURTS!! I RECENTLY TOOK AN ONLINE SURVEY THAT REVEALED 45% ARE AGAINST JAPANESE ENTERING NEXTEL CUP, ONLY 32% WERE FOR IT AND 23% DIDNT CARE. SO HERES OUR PLAN, WE DO NOT PATRONIZE THE SPONSORS WE SEE ON THE HOODS OF THE CAMRYS. I, FOR ONE, WILL NO LONGER DRINK RED BULL, EAT DOMINOES PIZZA OR BUY ANY PRODUCT MADE BY CATERPILLAR. COME ON, ARE YA WITH ME?! 45% OF US CANT BE WRONG. P.S. I PREDICT THE DOMINICAN REPUBLIC OVER PUERTO RICO IN 7 GAMES IN THE NEXT WORLD SERIES.
February 10, 2007 at 3:25 pm(156) Bla Bla Bla says:
You anti American folks should go to recalls.com Toyota has more recalls than all the manufactures combined.
Every night at 6:00 i see Toyautocar commercials telling you smart Americans how gret thier cars are.aND YOU GUYS ACTUALLY BELIEVE IT
Dale hasn’t got any nerve anymore and won’t win with a wantabe Nascar Toyota
Some of us know the plan of Toyota, tell us how many they employ(mostly in sales and suck the rest of you folks in)
But he is a good man just greed got the best of him
GO Green with Toyota and all your money goes to Japan
Such fools and Porterhouse needs to move to Japan
February 10, 2007 at 7:06 pm(157) tom says:
They got there buy changing the rules. Are you sure that this is nascar or mabe it is tWWF
February 10, 2007 at 7:06 pm(158) tom says:
They got there buy changing the rules. Are you sure that this is nascar or mabe it is the wwf
February 10, 2007 at 7:55 pm(159) Mike says:
Jesus, you ignorant rednecks are embarrassing.
Toyota does more for america than any of the other “big three” (ignoring the fact that toyota is actually number 2 in our country. It employs more, pays more, makes better products.
Frankly, NASCAR has always been nothing more than rednecks turning left, so Im a bit surprised toyota even cares to join. I suspect they will easily dominate within 2 years.
Dont like it, NASCAR fans? tough. Your time is up.
February 10, 2007 at 8:20 pm(160) scott mit says:
nascar is a america sport not a japan sport.japan and china is what is wrong with us now.
February 10, 2007 at 9:49 pm(161) Don says:
I lost two uncles to the Japs, one had his privates shoved in his mouth. Do you know many Asians and Chinese the Japs have murdered and never apoligized for or even admitted to? Have you ever been to Japan? Do you know much money the US tax payer spent rebuilding Japan after WWII? F@!k the Japs and people who drive rice burners. You people are ignorant. I have a Thunderbird with 205k miles, drove the last GM car I had 195k miles ( still runing when I sold it ) and I love nothing better than to blow the doors off them rice burners with my 335 HP American RWD car. Yeah, I’m a redneck and that makes you a Jap lover with no idea what your actions mean long term.
February 10, 2007 at 9:54 pm(162) Those who Love America says:
Let us inform this ignorant Mike about economics. I live in Louisville Ky and those folks at Georgetown Toyota plant for 4 10hour days make $46,000 a year. For the same amount of hours at Ford in Louisville they make $71,000. So tell me why a Camry cost more than a Ford 500. Profits go to support the people in Japan that don’t like us.
So stop making excuses for giving our jobs away.
Talk to some at the Toyota plant and see how they are treated. Sounds like American needs to wake up before it’s too late. I haven’t seen Toyota do much in the truck series and won’t do much in the cars either. Read the history books about Japanese can only imitate and copy our technology.
I don’t know where you get your information but I have friends that work at both plants. What does it take to justify not supporting Americans and their jobs?
The debate will end when these Misinformed Americans will wake up and stop making excuses,
Your car is imported too?
All the parts on your car are made in Japan and China?
It’s a Global economy?
They make a better car?
They employ millions of Americans?
American cars are junk?
Listen to yourselves , You choose not to support our country!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
February 10, 2007 at 10:03 pm(163) Those who Love America says:
I agree with Don and i think less of those that drive that trash too. And your right about the long term effect of those that love that Jap Crap
February 11, 2007 at 7:31 am(164) Tom Smith says:
Automaker Jobs. U.S. automakers employ twice the number of autoworkers on a per vehicle basis as foreignowned companies. Even with recent cuts, Ford and GM each employ more Americans than all foreignowned automakers combined. And Chrysler’s U.S. job “footprint” is about 20 times the size of Hyundai’s. Honda, one of the largest, longest operating “transplant” manufacturers operating in the U.S., employs approximately 28,000 Americans, but that is still about onefourth the number employed by Ford.
Supplier Jobs. “Made in America” matters even more when you look at the men and women working for auto parts suppliers that serve automakers. These companies employ nearly twice as more Americans than the automakers themselves. And Ford, GM and Chrysler purchase approximately 80 percent of the parts these people make. Based on market share, foreign automakers should be buying about twice what they are.
Research & Development. Tomorrow’s jobs will depend, in part, on today’s R&D particularly in fuel efficiency and safety.
The Japanese Automobile Manufacturers Association (JAMA), an association of 14 Japanese automakers doing business in America, notes that they collectively employ more than 3,600 R&D workers at 36 facilities nationwide. Honda operates 10 facilities employing 1,300 R&D professionals. That’s great, but more than 65,000 Americans (20 times JAMA’s total) work in 215 automotive R&D facilities in Michigan alone.
February 11, 2007 at 12:57 pm(165) Those who Love America says:
Don’t you think the only reason they employ in American is so we’ll buy more of thier trash.You know that’s why they do it. They can say Toyota’s are built in American. When the reality most are still built in Japan
Stupid Americans
February 11, 2007 at 2:32 pm(166) Robert says:
It’s like comparing Waylon Jennings to Shania Twain. Old CW vs. today’s CW. NASCAR vs. Stock car racing. Anyone seen a real Pontiac or Mercury in NASCAR lately? I’d like to hear the opinions of drivers such as David Pearson, Bobby Allison, Cale Yarborough, Alan Kulwicki, and Bobby Labonte. NASCAR changed forever in the 80’s & 90’s. Cars like the Taurus were allowed to compete. Restrictor plates are the unfortunate norm.
These days, it’s Hollywood NASCAR. Everyone focuses on the drivers (the cars don’t play poker), and all the flash. Now, all of a sudden the CARS are important just because the Toyota Camry has arrived?
Carroll Shelby took Ford to Europe and won. The Europeans didn’t want him or his Fords there….at first. It inspired others to become competitive. Perhaps the Toyota effort will provide motivation for GM and the rest to help make NASCAR interesting again.
That, and eliminating restrictor plates once and for all.
February 11, 2007 at 6:32 pm(167) Ron says:
This discussion seems to involve a lot of name calling instead of looking at what is taking place in NASCAR. Can anyone explain the differences between the “stock” cars? The rules are such that the NASCAR cars draw from a common pool of parts that bear little if any resemblance to what we buy in the showroom. Gone are the days when the hemi that raced had a lot of common parts that you could buy in a car that looked like the one raced. How in heaven’s name can you call any of the cars “stock cars”? NASCAR has stretched it too far. I would like to see the days return when the GM used an engine that you could buy in an actual car. You can substitute whatever car manufacturer you want because they are all playing the NASCAR game. Please avoid labeling me. I presently have 3 vehicles in my garage. The Pontiac TransSport was picked for its plastic and 3800 V6, the Chevy Tahoe Z71 for its truck heritage and strong small block, and the wife gets the Toyoya Camry V6 because nothing seemed as smooth and reliable. I enjoy my Tahoe but it has had its share of electrical problems and little annoyances. NASCAR was once an American race. However, things are changing. Unless the domestics wake up to what is and has happened to quality and reliability, NASCAR will have to be different because the writing is already on the wall. I once owned GM stock and shares in GMAC. Guess what happened to my investment? All the shouting and name calling will not affect what is likely to take place unless some real changes are made by the “American” automotive industry. It will take more than talk by the automotive executives. I think we are more than ready for action. . . . time will tell!
February 11, 2007 at 9:49 pm(168) PorterHouse says:
NASCAR isn’t even a sport. All you rednecks that love it should go sleep with your cousins.
February 11, 2007 at 11:15 pm(169) Bla Bla Bla says:
What brand of Asian crap do you drive PORTERHOUSE. Makes you mad that Americans support Americans and comments don’t fit your agenda.
So sad, i feel sorry for you. Did you see how poorly Dale did so far with that wonderful Camry
February 12, 2007 at 6:04 am(170) Joe says:
Question for all you that are against anything nonAmerican. What monitor are you using as you read this and where was it made? Where was the computer and its parts that you’re using made? Or the Cable or DSL Modem? What about the keyboard and mouse that you’ll be using to flame me with — where were they made? How about the TV that you use to watch NASCAR and Fox News? If you’re truly American, you’d throw it all away and buy an old RCA, GE or Maganavox TV from a thrift store and not use a computer at all since they all use parts made from foreign countries, even the first PC’s that were American made like Apples or TimexSinclairs or Ataris. But then you couldn’t use the internet. I guess you can sell your soul and justify that, right, but at the same time criticize others that drive foreign cars. Can you say hypocrite? I thought you could.
February 12, 2007 at 8:47 am(171) Devin says:
Im not really in favor of Toyota coming into NASCAR but now im say “Bring em on”. I think its really going to be something for the Big 3 to use as a marketing tool cuz Toyota is never going to get talented enough drivers to come over cuz drivers like Gordan, JR, Johnson, and Stewart are never going to cross company lines. The only thing i have to say is if a Toyota wins a race the fans in the stands better have some serious balls cuz NASCAR fans arent exactly the nicest guys in the world.
February 12, 2007 at 1:55 pm(172) Mark says:
To the poster that comments “I personally do not care if the Toyota’s are made in my basement….it is still a Toyota. And I would love to see the reaction of baseball fans if the champion Japanese team were permitted to compete in the WORLD series….don’t think that would go over too well. And why, because the World Series is AMERICAN. For me it has nothing to do with where the vehicles are made, or how many Americans they employ, or how reliable they are (I gave my Chevy Beretta away with over 500,000 miles by the way). It comes down to this…….Toyota is not an American company.”
Could you be anymore idiotic???
The WORLD series. Let’s say that again together….. The WORLD series. Last I checked, there was never anything other than American teams in the WORLD series. Doesn’t seem too much like a WORLD series to me. Maybe the American series ot the North America South of Canada series, but not the World Series.
February 12, 2007 at 2:54 pm(173) Denise says:
In the end, I think time will tell whether or not Toyota will be good for NASCAR. Personally, I think it’s about time some other car manufacturer decided to take on, or rather be allowed to compete with, the only three manufacturers that have been in the sport the last few years. I miss the days when there were more than three car manufacturers (there used to be Buicks and Pontiacs, what happened to them?). I think this is a great step for one of the top seeling car manufacturers here in the US. I look for the day when Honda and Hyundai put cars into the race. And for those of you who are giving up your seats just because there is/are Toyotas now in the race thank you! I’ve been waiting for those seats for a long time!
February 12, 2007 at 8:03 pm(174) Bla Bla Bla says:
Same old excuses and cop outs Joe, does not make it right to let them in Nascar.
Make up some more excuses for not supporting Americans and American Companies
February 12, 2007 at 8:54 pm(175) Joe says:
Who’s making excuses, Bla Bla Bla? First of all, this started as a discussion about Toyota in Nascar. It’s turned into an America versus anything foreignmade. If you could read, you’ll notice I didn’t say anything about Toyota joining Nascar. I simply pointed out the hypocrites who are against Toyota for being a foreign company while at the same time using foreignmade computers among many other things in their daily lives, like you, who is using “Asian crap” to read this post.
Who’s the one calling out others for driving Japanese cars but at the same time using foreignmade equipment to do it with? Funny how you can justify that but have no tolerance for others buying foreign cars. You are a hypocrite plain and simple and make your rules based on how it suits your needs. Now go ahead and go back to surfing the net with your foreign made computer equipment and watch TV on your foreignmade TV. Then when you get up tomorrow and put on your foreignmade clothes and your foreignmade shoes, drink your coffee from your foreignmade coffeemaker and eat your toast from your foreignmade toaster, you can feel good on the drive in to work knowing that your driving an American car (made with foreign parts). Hahaha, what a moron.
For the rest of you, why don’t you put your money where your mouth is and buy nothing but Americanmade things. If you can’t find Americanmade items like computers and TVs, then protest and stop using them! How you live with your doublestandard is beyond me. I guess foreignmade “crap” is okay if it suits your needs, right?
February 12, 2007 at 11:10 pm(176) Bla Bla Bla says:
I don’t get a choice with most things that i buy but your still making excuses. Joe has anger issues too
One day people will wise up
February 13, 2007 at 2:30 am(177) steve says:
i think im going to go back to why im tiring of nascar.one,de jr. dont get me wrong i like the guy but the commercials , the marketing, and his rabid fans is to much.two,i dont like the aeroblob cars.started with the tauras and now they are all the same.same body,more or less same engines.three, nascar has gone hollywood,nuff said.four,sorry,but i hate toyota.the american companys have contributed alot towards nascar .but now that they are getting kicked in the teeth i think nascar should be there for them by keeping it american.im totally for trade at all levels, but why wont the countries in the orient,japan and china allow american built cars to be sold in there country.in china for example ,if you want to sell an american car over there,the car has to be built there and 80%of the parts for that car has to be made there.like i said im and im sure most people are for trade but its got to be fair.
February 13, 2007 at 4:38 am(178) Joe says:
Hopefully one day Bla Bla Bla will wise up. You don’t have a choice? Please. Talk about making excuses. You always have a choice. I don’t think using the internet or watching TV is a life necessity. But I guess it’s more important to you to keep your lifestyle and sell your beliefs and buy foreign. Since you told someone else to move to Japan for driving a Toyota, why don’t you move to Taiwan or China for using their computers and TV’s? There are custom made TV’s and computers that you can buy that will lessen the amount of foreign involvement somewhat, but are you willing to pay $3000 for a 19″ TV? You’re so concerned about American auto workers — how about all those factory workers YOU put out of business when you bought those foreign made TV’s, clothes and computers? Or are they not important enough that you can just brush them aside so you can have your cheap consumer electronics and apparel. Don’t know if you or your kids play videogames, but I hope you bought them XBoxes instead of Playstation and Wii’s. At least Microsoft is an American company, right?
By the way, I’ve owned three cars in my lifetime, and 2 of them have been American, including my current one. And I would be willing to make my next car an American one. I care more about getting a solid car and a good value than where the parent company is from.
February 13, 2007 at 3:25 pm(179) Brian says:
I shall make every effort NOT TO SUPPORT to sponsors of that jap thing. #182 is why America is in the shambles it is today ” I care more about getting a solid car and a good value than where the parent co is from.” More BS. No one cares any more it’s really sad.
February 13, 2007 at 6:00 pm(180) Bla Bla Bla says:
Joe has so much anger and guilt. Sorry if i make you mad and made you ramble about your choices and making excuses about mine.
Some men are like women and have to have the last word.
YOU CAN SAY WHAT YOU WANT AND I WON’T RESPOND
February 13, 2007 at 10:21 pm(181) mike l says:
first off, you people who like toyotas so much should go back to japan and drive them their. you are lucky your in the USA because in china and japan you cant voice your opinions like here in america. nascar is an AMERICAN sport. all you people who never had to work for your money dont understand what trade is. when a forgien car is sold the money goes right out of the country except the workers wages. the cars are made to forgien standards, with mostly forgien parts.
February 13, 2007 at 10:32 pm(182) mike l says:
crash and burn burn you white collar traders. i will be sure to fight extra hard for your right to bad mouth this great country while im fighting in iraq AMERICA FING RULES
February 13, 2007 at 11:08 pm(183) PorterHouse says:
Mike, go back to grammar school before you go to Iraq. Maybe Kerry was right about people like you, botched joke or not. Also, Bla Bla Bla, i drive a 1998 Lincoln Continental. NASCAR is for possomeating, cousinslamming, confederateflag waving, toothless rednecks. BTW, Joe is a smart guy, listen to him, or better yet, just go kill yourselves.
February 14, 2007 at 1:46 am(184) Welcome Toyota says:
You bunch of ignorants and uneducated people who know nothing about the car industry. Toyota is going to win the auto world because the big three are chicken out without a good fight. Bring it on Big Three!!
February 14, 2007 at 9:57 am(185) eric67 says:
C’mon guys, dont develop a cancer for that. Nascar will get more exposure all arounbd the world whit toyota. IT,S all about $$$
February 14, 2007 at 9:57 am(186) Harry says:
Tyota is still a Jap name no matter where it is built.I can’t believe they let a Cumry run in The NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF STOCK CAR AUTO RACING.(not internatioal).What’s next hundai&yugo ? Go Ford ,Chevy & Dodge.Smash that Cumry into the wall !
February 14, 2007 at 10:01 am(187) eric67 says:
Come on guys! Don’t develop a cancer about this… Toyota will gives more credibility to Nascar all around the world. It’s all about $$$$$$$$ + 1 .
February 14, 2007 at 1:40 pm(188) Another Republican says:
Somebody is mad? We are the sellout country and love money more than supporting our companies or our workers. Porterhouse i drive a 1998 Nascar truck and i have a 135 IQ. IF YOU HAVEN’T SERVED IN OUR MILITARY YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO SAY ANYTHING ABOUT OUR MILITARY I support you Mike and we will rule one day!!!
February 14, 2007 at 2:12 pm(189) BDK says:
Chrysler’s Valentine’s Day massacre
The DaimlerChrysler honeymoon is really over.
Read more:
http://money.cnn.com/2007/02/14/news/companies/pluggedin_taylor_chrysler.fortune/index.htm?postversion=2007021412
February 14, 2007 at 2:14 pm(190) BDK says:
The big three U.S. automakers need to produce the products that the “American” consumer wants. We’re all not pickup and SUV drivers.
February 14, 2007 at 2:16 pm(191) BDK says:
Let’s congratulate the Dixie Chicks for winning five Grammys!!!
February 14, 2007 at 2:21 pm(192) Patricia says:
I am a proud American. I was born in Europe, but this is my country now. I will only buy American BRANDS. I’ve always owned Chevys. Wonderful trucks –never a problem. I’d propose to those NASCAR fans who hate Toyota (I do too) not to leave NASCAR. Instead, keep going and bring banners exposing Toyota for what it is. Toyota is trying to destroy America’s auto industry. For those who talk about using Asianmade TVs, I’d suggest to know your history. The Japanese companies “dumped” products in the USA. That is, the sold their units at a loss here until they drove all the American makers out of business. In the meantime, the same companies were overpricing their customers in Japan to compensate for the losses here. Dumping is a very common practice that the Japanese us.It’s about time that we stop these unfair trade and business practices. Educate the people
February 14, 2007 at 3:04 pm(193) Last of the true Americans says:
Finally a smart answer for those who can’t see what’s going on now in America
Let’s congratulate Patricia instead.
They have done this for years while their goverment helps them destroy our companies and Americans just brag about how good asian cars are
February 14, 2007 at 4:24 pm(194) Tom says:
Money rules, for now. I will never again spend one red American cent on anything NASCAR…oops. I meant JAPCAR. Not only will I never spend another cent, I will do everything I possibly can to deride and belittle the sport. If you don’t like that KMA.
February 14, 2007 at 7:29 pm(195) Dirk says:
I think it kind of dumb to bring Toyota in NASCAR just because they are out of place: Chevy, Ford, Dodge, Toyota… see what I mean. Plus most people recognize NASCAR as a pure American sport and it kind of sickens people seeing some foriegn brand thrown in the mix. There are tons of other forms of racing out there so why let them over run NASCAR? The money….duh. See how Toyota is plastered all over anything NASCAR now? Plus since when did Toyota have a race ready V8 that looks like a mix of the three other manufactures and has a sound that is just the same as the rest? And why did Michael Waltrips team have to use “a form of jet fuel” in their Camry if they are such a good car? So pretty much any brand could enter NASCAR as long as they can make a V8 because almost every aspect of the body template for each is the same, just throw one the headlight decals and have the shape of the grill on there and they’re ready to go. So really, Toyota will probably not be a blow to NASCAR because they will probably gain new fans that are into Toyotas or whatever but they may lose a few die hard 100% American made type fans. Anywho, another thing is the whole gas mileage thing… well ricers may get good gas mileage, but notice the 4 cylinder or v6 under the hood. Real Americans love performance, meaning gas guzzling V8’s… am I right? Well you can put $10,000 into a ricer and have it run 12’s in the quarter mile… a stock 69 Camaro with a small block could do that. Now spend $10,000 on the Camaro and you could get all the parts to pretty much cut that time in half. But anywho, sorry for changing the subject from NASCAR to drag racing but I just thought I’d say that. P.S I have a ‘91 Toyota Camry with a 4 cylinder… My 87 Monte Carlo gets with a 305 gets better gas mileage…lol
February 14, 2007 at 7:40 pm(196) eatenhogg says:
This site cracks me up. I can’t wait till NASCAR goes under. It’s the most boring sport on the planet. I’d rather watch curling. It sounds like a lot of people here need to take business 101. Patricia needs to take business 101. Has anyone ever heard of Walmart? American company that puts a lot of Americans out of work. But wait, don’t they hire a lot of people? Yeah, illegal immigrants at poverty wages. I guess half of you wouldn’t consider what Walmart does as “dumping” product though.
February 14, 2007 at 9:39 pm(197) Dennis Miller says:
Some Ford owners hate Chevys. Some Chevy owners hate Fords. Some Chevy and Ford owners hate Dodges. Some have the little Calvin cartoon window sticker wizzing on their “rival U.S. auto emblem”. Someone told my Dad he “can’t get into heaven driving a Dodge.” Some Big Harley owners laugh at Sportster riders. Some Windows PC owers hate all Apple Macs. If my kid wants to race Motocross, I don’t have the “buy American” option. Some NASCAR fans are now boycotting NASCAR? I could go on and on. I have never watched a NASCAR race in my life, but after reading all of the posts above, I will watch the Daytona 500 on Sunday just to see what happens!!
Thanks to all that posted, great reading! I love all of the back and forth commenting. My first car in 1985 was a bone stock 1962 four door Chevy Impala for $500. Man I loved that car! I was born in America and have only been to a 3rd world country once. I’m glad we have the freedom to have so many choices of what to buy! Sorry, I can’t afford to buy anything Caterpillar product, but I sure won’t try to run one off of the jobsite! And no, I am not related to the famous Dennis Miller.
February 14, 2007 at 10:13 pm(198) mike l says:
first off porterhouse, i am not a red neck by all means, nor am i a confederate flag waver. i live in new york. making my living welding, may be a little redneckish, but work hard, 810 hours a day behind a helmet. but i earn every cent of the 26.50$ i make. but i have three kids to support, a car payment, and all my bills. my wife left me for “pencil pusher” if you will. im not giving you a sob story, but i a am an american, who works hard for my money to support my family.
February 14, 2007 at 10:29 pm(199) mike l says:
my first comments to porterhouse must of been to vulger to post. you shut up about our military too. its because of people like you our country is in the state its in. dont you dare insault me or what i stand for. as for nascar, only true fans or exfans can slander it. and i may not be the smartest person but i sure do know a retard when i see or hear from one. you better hope we never meet. because it wont be pretty. and i have plenty of people behind me!
February 14, 2007 at 10:32 pm(200) Last of the true Americans says:
Mike don’t explain yourself to a left wing liberals like Porterhouse. I am from Kentucky and I share your values and opinions. Don’t sink to his level and give him a platform to ramble his trash. Others don’t care about fair trade laws either. But they can’t silence us with their cheap attacks or make fun of us without looking like total butwipes.
Keep your values and eventually they will go away.
February 14, 2007 at 10:43 pm(201) mike l says:
and the big three are not afraid of competition. waltrip had jet fuel in his intake manifold. he needed a little octane boost to keep up with the pack after that poor show at the bud shoot out. all the other toyotas did the same thing but it all got sucked in the cylinder and combusted, leaving no evidence. but other american teams cheated for fear of being showed up by the octane boosting toyotas. also you cant buy toyota crate engines. but you have a huge selection of american engines.
February 14, 2007 at 10:56 pm(202) mike l says:
thanks last of the true americans. i get very angry with people like that. but for all you non americans, thats the good part about this country, if you dont like it, you can leave. see how far you can get with your half baked ideas and opinions.
February 14, 2007 at 11:00 pm(203) Yishimita Ishimoto says:
I love how some people here expand horizongs. But you narrow minded morons… get over it. Toyota is the US’s biggest manufacturer or cars. Did I mentioned they DID NOT lay 13,000 people off like Chrysler did?
Oh yeah… I wonder where the Gauges, Bolts, Circuits, Crew Computers, etc. were made??? OH YEAH! MADE IN TAIWAN!
February 14, 2007 at 11:29 pm(204) Tom says:
Hey Mike, I don’t think porterhouse’s hubby knows ahe’s on the computer trashing true Americans. If he did I’m sure he’d btch slap her! God bless you and good luck in the desert. Tom, RVN 6972
February 14, 2007 at 11:30
